CRT in our military

A few days ago, Tucker Carlson, had a decorated combat vet named, Sean Parnell, on his show. The discussion was Critical Race Theory, and whether it should be taught in our military. Our Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Milley, believes it should be taught.
This Sean Parnell disagrees. He says there is no need whatsoever for Critical Race Theory to be taught in our military. After all "the US military has been a colorblind organization for the last 200 years". Yes, he really said that.
Clearly, Mr Parnell is not a student of history. The US military wasn't even integrated until July 28, 1948 when President Harry Truman signed Executive Order 9981. And before it was integrated racism was rampant.
Tucker Carlson needs to fact check his guests better. And, I'm sure learning CRT won't hurt our military.
P.S. Sean Parnell is planning to run for Congress in Pennsylvania. Want to bet he is running as a Republican?

 

"And, I'm sure learning CRT won't hurt our military."


I disagree. The military has been far in advance of the rest of society in integration and equal opportunity. The reason why is because it's been a fairly strict meritocracy. The team, and the mission came first, and the only color was green (at least in the Army). Advancing separate identity cultures over the green Army culture is likely to weaken the military. I honestly can't see the advantage of turning the Army into a copy of a faculty lounge. My suspicion is that it won't end well.

 

I have family and friends who said they experienced racism in the military despite a "fairly strict meritocracy".
My brother (who served in the Army from 1957 till 1977 ) once got into a fight with a White soldier who called him the N word. I've heard of other situations too where African-Americans were subjected to bigotry.
Maybe CRT will help with these kind of attitudes.
I am well aware that the military has been a great help to lots of young people of all races. I commend them for that.

 

I'm not trying to derail my own thread, but I must share this story.
My niece joined the female Army Corps after high school and was stationed in Radcliff, Kentucky for awhile. This was in the heart of KKK country. The Sargents at the facility told the African-American soldiers not to be off the base after dark. My niece said she soon understood why---the KKK used to have cross burnings in fields not too far from the base. This was in the late 80's.

 

SO... literally, you just made the case that the military has been entirely integrated for over 75 years. Or did you miss that part?

So what is your case? That historical instances justify teaching it as a not to do now? Because it's already not done in the military today.

 

There was no such thing as the "female army corp" at that time. The army was the army. Period. Cross burnings you say.... in the 80s.... that must have been in the 1880s, right?

 

So because your brother got into a fight with a white soldier over the N word, that means, what? Jesus Christ the Army is filled with real people just like any other institution, and the fact that your brother got into a fight in the 1950's means pretty much zero to my argument that the Army is a meritocracy.

 

My case is that Sean Parnell was wrong when he said the military has been "colorblind" for 200 years.
How do you know what's done in the military now?

 

The men and women were housed together? I don't think so. I'm sure there was a separation of genders.
It was in the late 1980's. My niece graduated high school in 1984 and joined the military a few years after.
Did you think the KKK had disappeared? They are still around even today.

 

I think the military understanding CRT is important. As did Milley. At no point was he saying that they were being taught, simply that it was important to understand the fundamentals of an issue that is so hotly in debate across the country.

 

Thank you.

 

Then you have no case, you are simply historically wrong.

 

Yes, in fact they were. Military barracks for enlisted housing in the mid 1980s were not segregated into male and female. And while individual rooms were male/female only, the buildings themselves were not. You recount a history that wasn't real. Show an example of KKK activities on our around military bases in the time frame you assert. Didn't happen.

 

So what is your point? It is ok to teach racism and hate and division now because things were not fair before at one time?

 

Watch the video. Defense sec Austin, who is a black man said the following things.

1. He does not believe the military is a fundamentally racist organization.
2. He does not believe anybody should be discriminated against because of the color of their skin.
3. He does not believe that race or sex should be the deciding factors in determining combat leaders.
4. He agreed with senator Cotton that anybody exposed to bigotry or this bigoted teaching should go up the chain of command and complain.

So is Lloyd J. Austin III a white supremacist?

 

CRT and the NSA abusing their power spying on people should be an abomination to any person of character who loves freedom. Regardless of political affiliation.

To go along with them just because you are a democrat is pathetic and weak.

Teaching hate and division is always wrong! Our government spying on Americans and denying people their basic civil liberties is always wrong.

To support CRT just because you happen to be black or because it is the libo thing to do is stupid and I have no respect for that.

 

Drluggit, I just got off the phone with my niece. This is what she told me:
1) While in basic training men and women recruits lived in SEPARATE buildings. After basic training they lived in a 3 story building with the men on the first and second floor, and women on the third floor. They did their exercises and training together.
2) She said the KKK definitely did have cross burnings (in 1989) near her military base. Not only that, she said there was a little store in town that had this sign by the cash register: "N***** don't let the sundown catch you in this town."
Sounds like a town full of Trump loving, MAGA hat wearing folks.

P.S. My niece said that sign is probably still there at that store.

 

The armed forces were SEGREGATED during WW1 and WW2. In 1948 President Truman integrated the armed forces. 1948 is not 200 years ago.
So, I am not historically wrong.

 

Where was this? These cross burnings? Delaware?

 

A little free advice for libos. Might try to utilize the internet search engine before posting. Moriah proudly said that Harry Truman integrated the troops in 1948? Note AFTER the war. And she mentioned KKK rallies? Interesting.

Harry Truman was once in the KKK!!! In Independence Missouri.
https://www.quora.com/Was-President-Harry-Truman-a-member-of-the-KKK

Here is a famous quote from this great democrat.

Regarding segregation I have a question. Was that bad? Don't they call that safe spaces today? Why would black folks want their children or grandchildren educated with the blue eyed devils?

 

Once again the way the typical white democrat thinks. From Harry Truman.

Guess that explains why democrats are beating up Asians. It's your heritage!

 

Just checking that y’all are aware that CRT is a collegiate level theory for law students and sociologists, right? Your average service member isn’t going to be taught CRT.

Edit: Neither are children in schooling anything lower than college level, by the way.

 

Whew! Well I guess there is no problem with banning it from public schools and the military then!

Thanks!

 

Now if only when the right said CRT, they didn’t mean anti-racism and America’s history of racism, right? Then we could actually agree.

 

We could come much further towards agreement if "anti-racism" didn't so often actually mean racism.