Cuomo's coronavirus failure – the real reason for New York's ventilator shortage

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  1. mitchscove

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    Here is the direct link to the New York guidelines. Thanks for the heads up.
    https://www.health.ny.gov/regulatio...ations/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf#page=36
     
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    Deflection attempt for Cuomo and his responsibility for the ventilator shortage in NY noted
     
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    I find both Fredo and his brother to be very bizarre individuals. Harsh and unlikeable.
    Congratulations on your decision to get out of NY as early as you did.
     
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    At least Trump is there to spread love via Twitter.
     
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    Ya, I wish it weren't so much but I do understand it is the only way he can communicate directly to his base without some asshat media critter trying to distort what he is saying. Do they have twitter up in Canada? I find it to be a playground for fools.
     
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    I think Trump should help Cuomo all he can, because, as Cuomo has mentioned on TV 10 times/day, it’s not his fault he didn’t order enough ventilators. (Sarcasm noted, in case it went over your head)
     
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    It's true.
    No media gives him the opportunity to insult whoever he wants.

    It's like they don't understand the real role of a President.

    Even the reporters at Fox are asking him tough questions now.
     
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    So you admit OUR president is communicating directly with the people. That's is why we deplorables voted for him.
     
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    Why don't the deplorables listen to Trump in his press conferences?

    They don't understand what he's saying?
     
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    Because ours is a free country and we have choices.
     
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    City has a problem; the mayor handles it. State has a problem; governor handles it. Trump declares a NATIONAL emergency on 3-13. National emergencies are handles by the president except this time. TRUMP FAILS.
     
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    "On Page 30 the Health Department report on ventilator allocation guidelines states: “during a severe influenza pandemic, there is likely to be a projected shortfall of ventilators (-15,783) during peak week demand"

    Read the NY health department report. It clearly stated NY didn't have enough ventilator or trained personnel to operate them. They also said the feds would not be able to give all the states the aid they would need in a pandemic. Cuomo ignored this advice and now blames Trump for his own failure.
     
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    That’s cheap. Can’t you do better?
     
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    So Cuomo and Deblasio fails also.
     
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    I blame Trump for all of his dumb-ass actions, like not using available test kits just because they weren't made in America, but this belongs squarely in Cuomo’s lap.
     
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    Cheap ? Why ?

    I'm on the same level as Trump.
     
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    Not a very high bar, is it? Where’s the intellectual pride?
     
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    Let us hope that all the politicians who haven't managed this crisis well will not be re-elected.

    Ok for you?
     
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    Ok by me.
     
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    So you havent heard about all the issues with those "available test kits" as you put them?
     
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    The difference here is Cuomo ignored advice from his own dept of health while Trump followed the advice of the CDC who told him the WHO test were unreliable and they wanted test of their own. You ask a lot of Trump who was recently impeached by the HOR for not following state department policy. Imagine the howls if he had ignored the
    CDC policy. This decision of his is a legacy of the phony impeachment.
     
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    A leader more worried about public opinion than dealing with facts is not much of a leader.
     
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