DACA compromise I'd be OK with.

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    While it is true that the DACA kids are present in the country unlawfully, I think we have to acknowledge that they were brought here through no fault of their own and it is also true that many of them don't have any connection to their country of origin. As it is difficult to hold someone accountable for a law they themselves didn't break, I propose this: 8 U.S. Code § 1324 "Bringing in and Harboring Certain Aliens" calls for a minimum prison sentence of three years and a fine of up to $250,000 for knowingly bringing an illegal alien into the country. I say for every DACA kid to whom we grant amnesty, the parents (or adult who brought them here) are prosecuted as per the above and are immediately deported upon the conclusion of their prison sentence, never to be lawfully admitted to the United States again. They will also be fined based on the number of years their kids resided illegally in the country, up to the maximum amount of $250,000.

    I think this is a fair compromise that allows these innocent kids to continue enjoying the life they've known for most of their lives and enacts the proper consequences on those responsible.

    Furthermore, I'd go after sanctuary politicians using this same Code under the harboring provisions. Jerry Brown will be the first to go.
     
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    did Trump bring his wife in illegally?
     
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    I haven't heard this. Do you have any evidence to suggest he did?
     
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    I can live with that. Sounds like the rule of law.

    But are you aware that the Gang of Six DACA amnesty that Trump rejected on Thursday, January 18th on the shithole shithole shithole day, went beyond awarding illegal alien DACA dreamers with amnesty but also included awarding amnesty for the dreamer's parents who were the ones who violated America's soverignty, broke America's laws and brought their soon to be dreamers illegally across the border.
     
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    regardless, I do not see any deal where we imprison the parents for a min of 3 years
     
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    Good start, but it not solve the problem of los dacaderos. Here's some additions that will.

    1) Anyone bringing a minor into the country illegally is immediately charged with a federal felony, and fined, per your suggestion.
    2) They are immediately deported, along with their child back to their country of origin.
    3) The parents, and their "chain", are immediately banned, forever, from ANY legal entry, and therefore have no path to citizenship.
    4) The child IS still eligible, once he becomes an adult, but the people who committed the crime can not ever be.
    5) Individual "chain" members who were affected can appeal after 7 years, but face a much more difficult path to legal immigration.

    So, not only does the parent of the minor invalidate themselves from ever becoming a citizen, they also invalidate their "chain".

    This adds teeth, does not punish the child, and encourages LEGAL immigration.
     
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    Why not? The law exists for a reason.
     
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    If she entered the US and worked for him before she had a legal visa, she was an illegal alien and he was guitly of harboring an illegal alien.
     
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    The chances of Ryan or McConnell actually doing what they said they would do is minimal based on their histories. The Dems wimped out and gave in to protect actual citizens from shut down damage at the cost of probably giving up the dreamers. The only hope these kids have anymore is a house and senate flip before Republicans round 'em up and ship 'em to Mexico.
    I wonder how Mexico feels about us sending them a bunch of kids who don't speak Spanish and have never been there.
     
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    The numbers recently changed to 4 million people. We cannot afford this demographically. No ****ing DACA. This is a hill worth dying on.
     
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    I totally reject the idea that being illegally in the US is a "crime" that you should be "punished" for in the first place.

    If being forced to live in Mexico is "punishment for a crime", then all Mexicans are being punished for a crime as well.

    The whole idea is stupid. Saying "they're punished for a crime they didn't commit" is just sob story garbage by the globalist LW media to justify not enforcing the law.

    And don't get me started on the thoroughly debunked "they don't speak Spanish" nonsense.
     
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    She was here on a legal vistor visa.It appears she worked before she had a work permit. People who hire her were at fault.
    How does this make her an illegal alien?
     
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    Ship every illegal back where they came from period! Don't want to break up their family , perfect .
     
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    laws. America doesn't need its own laws. we have the UN. duh.
     
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    That's not true.

    Dems have allowed for the funding bill to be enacted. That's only good until Feb 8 and we do it all over again unless DACA is passed by thewn.

    That will show the nation how untrustworthy the GOP is if they don't get that done
     
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    They wont "Get It Done" and no Republican will care, they will applaud it. We shall see what that means for the midterms.
     
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    In her infinite wisdom, Ms Pelosi says we should only deport illegal aliens if they do something illegal.
     
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    This is an interesting proposal moving forward, but retroactive application would be problematic, at least beyond a few years.

    Bottom line: we either need to enforce our borders or eliminate them.

    This game of borders that aren't borders needs to stop.
     
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    she violated her Visa and could have been deported
     
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    I want a good deal out of any continuation of the DACA program. That would include the RAISE Act, the Wall, and E-verify. Honestly I'm not sure why if Democrats think these "kids" are so important, they wouldn't give in on all of those items. I mean, what's the argument to oppose them?
     
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    LOL..

    I can't help but burst out laughing at this... what a compassionate person you are. Jail the parents for 3 years and deport them. What happens to the 14 year old kid who's parents are in jail and have no connections in Country of origin?

    This immigration issue is a joke.

    We need to secure the f borders and not let illegals in. We need to STOP these RETARDED country lottery systems and chain migration.

    It is absurd that we even consider bringing in unproductive people from certain Countries just because we don't have enough of them here. It is also absurd that immigrants can bring in distant family members, one guy comes in and can bring his whole big family in.

    Make it easier for people that will fill in jobs that lazy Americans don't want and make it easier for people to get greencards if they produce. Illegals? stop them and make it hard as F for unproductive immigrants who are just deadweight.
     
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    I believe she came in illegally before he was "dating" her. She came in on a falsified work visa or some form of work visa violation.
     
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    How about no? You admitted this is of no fault of their own. However, you did bring up a US Code that needs revising.
     

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