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Can’t even name one?
So I am accused or wanting to “gut” the entire constitution but y’all cannot even name a single amendment that I want to “gut”.

There is a name for that kind of rhetoric, I’ll let you pick your own.

 

The part about our federal government having limited powers.

In fact, if the power is not granted to the federal government in the Constitution, it is reserved to the States.

 

What powers am I wanting to give the federal government that is not enshrined in the constitution? I have already said I am fine with states implementing their own “no cost” collages and health care. Let the red states rot. They want it so bad — we should give it to them. Blue states should discontinue funding the government at unequal levels and bring their money home, matching only the lessor of what the red states pay. Agree?

Furthermore, the constitution does mention promoting the general welfare so your point is... off base, at best.

 

So, you are in favor of salary caps for College Professors?

 

Where is paying for healthcare and/or education in the constitution?

Odd considering all the rot you speak of is occurring in Blue states.

Agreed. Stop the federal government from taking state dollars and then refunding it to the states to buy compliance.

The general welfare speaks to supporting the citizenry through powers enumerated by the constitution.

The general welfare clause could be used in any capacity if the argument that the proposal benefits the populace, which means the constitution wouldn't be limiting at all, which is previously the "gutting" of the constitution I was talking about.

The General Welfare clause is the most abused clause in the entirety of the Constitution.

 

Where is providing roads, police, firefighters, or the bloated military mentioned? Provide the common defense and promote the general welfare.

Educational attainment, higher education, infrastructure, healthcare quality — all red state issues. Blue states could probably tackle the issues that they have like homelessness, income inequality, pollution, and education inequality if the federal government would get out of their way and stop stealing their money. Red states would hurt if they stoped getting blue state welfare.

I am fine with this.

I see no such limitation mentioned to this specific item.

That isn’t gutting... thats a desperate reach.

So you are wanting to “gut” the constitution! Here is my shocked face.

 

Roads, police, firefighters are not provided by the federal government.

The national defense is part of their enumerated powers.

So you are really trying to say that all of the issues that plague urban left centers is a result of the federal government?

And even if that was true.... you are then advocating more federal control? Does that make sense?

Might want to take a look at the 10th amendment.

 

I am in that boat too, I have about year left to 100 percent pay off both my childrens school loans, be nice to get that back

I woudl rather see public colleges that are free to students in the same way grade k-12 is today

"Speaking of being reimbursed, my tax money went to people for food, can I get my money back for buying my own food? How about my cell phone? My healthcare?"

republican money went to Bush's two 10+ year wars, dems went to helping Americans - which was better spent?

 

Why should Joe have to go to war and die because some stupid politician thinks that it is a good idea? Since the politician wanted the war he should have to fight it himself. Joe had nothing to do with starting the war. That is the politicians debt and no one else should have to pay it.

 

Federal grants say otherwise.

Some of them, absolutely.
Some of them are the cause of highly dense population centers — it is easier to manage an are that is sparsely populated than heavily dense.
If states paid an equal portion to the federal government then blue states would have significantly more to spend on these issues.
Let the red states wither and die then pick up the pieces.

Promoting the general welfare is specifically numerated.

 

You pay for trump's toilet paper but you don't want to pay for a student to learn how to do surgery on you?

 

Society benefits from welfare and food stamps

the reality is, if we want people to work for less than a living wage, we need welfare and food stamps, someone pays even if not the employers

 

offer public colleges, then the rich can pay for their high priced private colleges and the working class can go to the public colleges

 

You want more government programs? No thanks.

 

That's like saying that your household "benefits" from your grown son NOT working and collecting free money and food from you.

Society "benefits" when all able-bodied people are working and productive.

 

Young men fight. It’s impractical to have men in their 60’s on the battlefield with their arthritis and other problems. They’d take 30 seconds to run 100 yards, if they could do it without a walker.

And if you don’t like the war, vote those politicians out of office.

 

And this is why I say you want to assualt the Constitution.

https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/general-welfare-clause/

 

A better solution is that loaning bodies don't lend for any degree not leading directly to full time employment. But even that is asking someone else to do your thinking for you. Whenever that happens, freedoms are lost.

 

It doesn't need repeating, but .................. racists always reveal themselves.

 

Cool, so you are also for almost completely dismantling the military overseas operations as well using the same line of reasoning then, yes?
https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/20...nd-common-defense-explained-by-james-madison/

Please don’t edit down my posts, if you don't have the integrity to respond to all of it don’t bother responding at all.

 

My blood red state offers no cost community college — so far the earth hasn’t opened up and destroyed us all in hell fire. It’s almost like it’s ok as long as a Republican does it, like the bump stock ban... almost like many cons have zero actual values and just follow whatever their political leaders say...

 

Oh yeah? So there is no growing homelessness problem? No increasing housing affordability problem? No rapidly increasing wealth divide problem? No falling educational outcomes?

The above are all a result of welfare, because we have given out it indiscriminately. We've given it to anyone who asks, instead of those who will actually use it to escape poverty. In so doing we've created generational welfare, plus all the above problems. Not sure how you can possibly call that a benefit.

 

yes, under Trump the homeless problem is getting worse

your logic is a fail, be like saying hospitals don't work because we always have sick or injured people that need help

 

No, the problems started at the turn of the century - and picked up pace dramatically between 2005 and 2015. It was only then that we were able to see the results of the previous 25+ years of indiscriminate welfare. It took a generation or two to realise our error.

 

yep, corporatism is taking America down... to much foreign imports and foreign exports - the right thought trickle down tax cuts for the rich would fix everything

trickle up works better, when the people have money to spend, businesses create jobs to get that money