Dante Wright's estate being sued; Gimme dat, gimme dat

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just when the Wright's thought they played the race card for millions, their little monster's murderous past comes out to snatch the riches from their greedy racist claws.

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    Men jump on the hood of a police car after a family said a man was shot and killed by law enforcement on Sunday, April 11, 2021, in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota
    (AP Photo/Christian Monterrosa)

    The estate of Daunte Wright, the man accidentally shot by police some months back while he resisted arrest in a Minneapolis suburb, is being sued by one of his alleged victims. Twenty-year-old Wright you’ll recall had an active warrant for carrying a weapon and fighting with police, which was why they were trying to arrest him the day he got shot. He also had open armed robbery charges pending.

    This was, of course, forgotten at his funeral. According to the New York Times, his “family and friends remembered Mr. Wright for his bright smile and outgoing demeanor, and as a dedicated father to a toddler, Daunte Jr., who was almost 2. As a freshman at Thomas Edison High School, he was voted a ‘class clown.’

    "He attended Patrick Henry High School in Minneapolis in 2018, said the school principal, Yusuf Abdullah, who said he ‘was just like any other kid.' "

    I know a little about Patrick Henry High School and can sadly say that Principal Abdullah is correct and that Mr. Wright is indicative of the type of kid that institution of learning produces.

    The Reverend Al Sharpton eulogized the young man he'd never once met with "You thought he was just some kid with an air freshener," Mr. Sharpton said. "He was a prince, and all of Minneapolis has stopped today to honor the prince of Brooklyn Center."

    Well, it looks like this victim who is being held up on a pedestal, in his violent wheelings and dealings around the Minneapolis metro area, may have shot a 16 year old in the head, leaving him with permanent injuries. Now that family wants some of the settlement money that's sure to come.


    KARE 11 reports

    The mother of a teenage boy who was shot in the head and critically injured in 2019 has filed a civil lawsuit claiming the shooter was Daunte Wright – the young man whose name made national headlines last month when he was shot and killed during a traffic stop in Brooklyn Center.

    Wright's death sparked days of protests over racial profiling and police use of force.

    A newly filed lawsuit claims that Wright shot 16-year-old Caleb Livingston in the head at a Minneapolis gas station on May 14, 2019, leaving him with permanent physical and mental disabilities.

    Livingston's mother is seeking damages from Wright's estate to help pay for her son's continuing care.

    Although Wright was not criminally charged before his death in connection with Livingston’s shooting, the civil court filings in the case allege that "evidence generated to date reveals that the perpetrator of this crime was Daunte Wright."

    Livingston's mother also alleges in court documents that Wright was a gang member with a lengthy criminal history.


    Gas station shooting

    Daunte Wright and Caleb Livingston had been childhood friends, according to a memorandum filed in the lawsuit. In fact, it says Caleb's "first sleep over as a boy was at Wright's home."

    As time went on, though, there apparently was a falling out. Court filings say Livingston "beat up" Wright in front of others. That may have been a motive for what the lawsuit claims happened next.

    Shortly after 9 o'clock on the night of May 14, 2019, the lawsuit says Livingston was at a gas station/convenience store in the 1800 block of Lowry Avenue in North Minneapolis. It claims Wright was there, too.

    It alleges Wright "brandished, pointed, and discharged a firearm" at Livingston, with one bullet striking him in the head.

    Weapon found?


    Caleb Livingston survived - but with severe and permanent injuries.

    At the time, no one was charged in the shooting. But attorneys for Livingston’s mother point to new evidence they say links Wright to the crime.

    One year later, in June 2020, Minneapolis police received a report about a man with gun. When they arrived, a criminal complaint alleges that Daunte Wright jumped out of a car and fled on foot. However, officers said they found a loaded black Ruger .45 caliber handgun on the floor of the car where Wright had been sitting.

    Wright was charged with fleeing police and carrying a handgun without a permit.

    In a recent filing, an attorney for Livingston’s mother told the court "Based on reasonable information and belief, this gun is being compared to the shell casings found at the scene" of the 2019 gas station shooting.

    The filing says the Minneapolis Police Department has not released details because their investigation is "active and ongoing".


    Case originally sealed

    Attorney Michael Padden filed the case in Hennepin County court on May 4, but originally asked that the case be kept confidential.

    He cited the widespread publicity and protests surrounding Wright’s death which occurred during the murder trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin.

    He also argued that making the case public could jeopardize the police investigation and interfere with possible negotiations with lawyers for Wright’s family to settle the case.

    A judge recently ruled the court files could be released.

    When reached by KARE 11, Padden released this statement: "We had to commence the lawsuit because of the statute of limitations. MN law does not permit a case like this to be or remain sealed. Having said that, the allegations are valid."

    Wright's estate has not filed a formal response to the lawsuit.

    KARE 11 attempted to reach Wright family attorney Ben Crump, but has not heard back.

    If true, then Wright was either a new father or expecting his son at the time he was allegedly shooting his friend in the head.

    All Wright's victims should get a taste of what is sure to be a massive settlement. It seems that every settlement gets successively bigger. George Floyd's family got $27M.

    By the way, just for the record, I am personally against the idea of families getting money for the wrongful deaths of their children.
    All the more so when it is taxpayers footing that bill.
    In my opinion, stories like this just help show how ridiculous that can be.

    I will point out that it's very likely the lawyers in this legal battle are going to eat up half the settlement money. That might even leave the family members bankrupt and in an even worse financial position than they were before. (If they have to fight to keep the settlement money that is headed towards them, but then lose in court; with the money ultimately going to the family of the victim's victim instead of the family of the victim)
     
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  2. Junkieturtle

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    A person being a criminal or having a criminal past does not excuse police mistreatment(when it is indeed a case of police mistreatment). So I'm never sure why there's always a rush to canonize black victims of police shootings who do have a criminal past or are wanted for crimes.

    But then again, it's not uncommon to focus on the positive and sweep the negative under the rug when one has died. That happens all the time and is nothing new nor is it behavior restricted to certain types of people.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If police make a mistake and kill an individual, but it later turns out that individual committed murder, don't you think that should have a very big impact on what any sort of financial compensation should look like?

    If someone deserves to be in prison for life, but instead they are wrongfully killed, that is a very different thing from a normal person being wrongfully killed.
     
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    Would you agree that wasn't the point of the OP? You posted this anyway. Why? The victims of the person shot by police and in receipt of public funds in compensation can, and likely should be attached for any wrongdoing that the dead criminal committed during his lifetime. Why not agree that victims of Wrights should be adequately compensated for the injuries he inflicted on them?
     
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    "This was, of course, forgotten at his funeral. According to the New York Times, his “family and friends remembered Mr. Wright for his bright smile and outgoing demeanor, and as a dedicated father to a toddler, Daunte Jr., who was almost 2. As a freshman at Thomas Edison High School, he was voted a ‘class clown.’'

    so what, at every funeral I have been too, they never mention the bad a person has done, they try to remember the good
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's always amazing to listen to these threads and watch people defend the indefensible.
     
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    agree, it's like saying prostitutes deserved to be raped or killed.... no, they can also be victims.. anyone can be a victim

    yes, some victims have pasts we may not like, doesn't mean they were not victims

    that said, doesn't excuse jumping on police cars and such, but if a wrongful death, then let it play out in the courts
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're talking about a potential murderer here, not a prostitute.
     
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    they can be victims too... that is just life, not all victims are good people
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you've lost sight of the original point.

    Why should the family get settlement money for the police killing when their offspring deserved to die?
     
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    what was your point? you responded to me, I did not respond to you originally so not sure you had a point?
     
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    no one is defending his past actions...

    just saying bad people can also be victims....
     
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    I posted what I did because it was what I was thinking about as I read it. But to answer your question, I do agree that victims of the man's crimes are entitled to money from the donations made in his name. I've got no problem with the lawsuit. But what struck me more and what led to the comments I made is an issue that extends beyond this specific person. We don't need to lift up the people who died by police into sainthood in order to condemn the police in those instances where they have acted wrongly. In fact I think it is counter-productive. And it certainly doesn't change the egregiousness of situations where police have indeed acted in the wrong.
     
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    It should make no difference whatsoever. But, I also think that any victims of the victim are entitled to file civil suits to get a chunk of whatever money is awarded or donated. Not because the victim died by police, but because the victim was the assailant in those other incidents, assuming that's the truth of it anyway.
     
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    Just because you were an ******* while alive, death does not change that.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point was that the original victim's family should not have got any money.

    Ergo, there should be no money to give to the victims of the victim.
     
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    Why shouldn't the families of those who've been wronged get money?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't believe I'm having this argument with you.

    Why should they get money?
    The money is not coming from the individual who actually committed the wrong, and neither is the money going to the individual victim who actually was wronged.
    That should be obvious. But that is just for starters.

    Just for the sake of total hypothetical argument, let's just suppose that the family does deserve the money if the victim deserves the money but cannot collect due to being dead. You'd sort of be asking the imaginary question 'Does the victim deserve to be given money for being killed, if they were still alive?'
    Does the victim deserve money?
    Hmm, let's think about this a bit.
    We can all agree that a criminal who is executed for a crime he committed does not deserve and should not get any sort of compensation for being killed. (Assuming he actually deserved to be killed, of course)
    The family of a serial killer will never get any money when their son is killed by the government.

    Okay, now we can extend this argument a little bit.
    The idea of compensation is based on what the government wrongly took away. When you have a normal innocent person, and they were killed, their entire life has been wrongly taken away.
    But now let's suppose, instead of a normal innocent person, it was someone who has been sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
    Wouldn't you agree that any amount of compensation should be calculated by taking "the value of a human life", and then subtracting from that the economic value equivalent of life in prison? What I mean is that, suppose they deserve to be in prison for life, but instead they get killed. One could say that (from a theoretical standpoint) that at some part of that execution they deserved. They did not deserve the killing in its entirety, but there was at least a part of it they deserved. Killing them was not as wrong as killing a normal innocent person.
    Any amount of compensation should naturally be less. Much less.
    (Heck, there are many people who would prefer death to life in prison)

    If police kill a person, and it turns out that person deserved to die, why would they deserve compensation?

    Yes, police made a mistake, but ultimately in the bigger picture it was not so much of a mistake.


    Now, are you asking why the family of Dante Wright's victim shouldn't get money from the government for being wronged?
    Then the answer to that would be because it wasn't the government who wronged them.
    (You don't think taxpayer money should go to any family when one of their children ends up murdered, do you?)

    Think it through, and I think you will see how all of this is totally insane. On so many different levels. It's just a giant circus.
     
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    Did Duante Wright's family even receive any kind of settlement yet?
     
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    I don't think so, but it's in the pipeline.

    If other cases which are similar to this one are anything to go by, the city will extremely likely offer settlement money.
    The city of Minneapolis gave Floyd's family $27 million.

    By suing "the estate of Daunte Wright", this other family hopes to make sure some of that money (maybe even all of it) will be diverted and earmarked for them, before it even reaches the family of Daunte Wright.
    That seems to be what the legal strategy is.
     
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