"Death by China: How America lost its manufacturing base" (video)

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Has anyone seen this video?



    I'll just leave it here for you to comment on.
    At the least this will help give you some perspective on what people in the Rust Belt region of the country are feeling.
     
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  2. james M

    james M Banned

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    We lost our manufacturing base because liberal unions, taxes, and budget deficits drove jobs off shore.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the one-celled liberal brain that went from the violent WTO protests in Seattle (1999) to thinking that not completely opening up markets to the rest of the world is nationalist and racist.
     
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    So you would Prefer your working conditions to be the same as the Chinese???
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Let's also ignore German unionisation and its export record...
     
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    ours are much better and would be much better still if not for lib unions, taxes, and deficts driving 20 million jobs off shore. Makes sense.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Why do you think the more interventionist Germans are so successful in their export policy?
     
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    Germans are Germans and have an IQ for engineering that no one else has. Plus, they are very lucky in getting the world to pay a huge premium for cars that are little better than others. Their biggest plant in in USA where there are no unions to intervene. !! Isn't that odd?
     
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    Let's leave it at that and acknowledge you did say something correct
     
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    of course if I did say something incorrect you would not be so afraid to point out what it was for whole world to see. What have you learned from your fear?
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You were right for a change: Germans are Germans. Could you explain German success (despite union power and government interventionism)? Of course not.
     
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    could you? of course not. Another very meaningful tactic when you have lost yet another debate.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    So America is weak because of low union power and Germany is strong because of high union power? Now I know you don't believe that. But getting coherent economic comment from you is seemingly next to impossible
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Germany has permanently imported a lot of people from Turkey to do the less skilled factory work. No doubt this helps their manufacturing sector have lower more competitive prices in the world marketplace, since Germany is a European country and otherwise would have difficulty competing, because of its relatively high cost of living and high labor costs. But likely it is also leading to a downward pressure on wages and long-term will weaken the positions of the labor unions.
     
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    Has manufacturing output decreased? I was not aware of this.
     
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    Germany continues to have strong unions who have a history of minimum wage protection. Can you show that protection is declining?
     
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    if I said that I will pay you $10,000. Bet? does the liberal know what a straw man is?
     
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    sure, they just built their biggest plant in the world in non union South Carolina! Liberals are so easy.
     
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    So Germans have high exports because of investment in South Carolina? Crikey, you believe that don't you?
     
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    Germans have high exports because they are great at engineering, they have high profits because they avoid unions whenever possible.

    The trend looks set to continue, too, VDA believes. It forecasts German makers will assemble some 8.7 million vehicle outside the country in 2013. That will take the proportion of overseas production up to 63 percent in 2013 from 60 percent in 2012
     
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    A naive comment. You never wondered why a couple with such powerful unions has a superior export record than the likes of the UK and the US, where anti-union legislation runs supreme? You seriously telling me that you haven't?
     
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    Germany has superior exports because engineering is in their blood. Without unions they would be far better still.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's true Germans are harder working than the French, with a more disciplined strict culture, but that's just a part of the reason. The migrants Germany got in the 90s mainly came from Turkey and were more industrious than the migrants other European countries got, though the situation has changed now.
     
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    Is it now? Present one coherent economic source that agrees with that ridiculous comment.
     
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    it is true Germans are highly disciplined. they work fewer hours
    hardly ridiculous!! but rather very well known!!

    Germans - 'hardest working, most admired' - The Local
    https://www.thelocal.de/20120529/42817

    May 29, 2012 ... Europeans and Americans see Germans as the hardest-working in the continent, and admire the country more than any other, according to a ..
     

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