Death Penalty: What % of innocent deaths is acceptable?

That is a good example of a psyco.

If you let 100 guilty murders go free, how many innocent people will die from it.
A whole lot more than one. Many will be kidnapped, raped, tortured.
You just don't like the human race do you.

 

Ben Franklin never said anything like that.

 

a claim of innocence is a reliable indication of guilt

 

Yes he did in quoting Voltaire. Also see Blackstone. It is an old adage created under the Anglo Saxon common law.

 

Maybe the relatives of the 100 victims should have a say in that?

 

yes, this is especially true of those exonerated under the Innocent Project

 

true, especially when they see an innocent person hung while the guilty party went free

 

source, please

 

If we could actually see them get hung, it might have an effect on the numbers.

 

public lynchings in the South did not put an end to that crime

 

Hardly a comparison.

I am speaking of legal executions.

 

The misfortune of such situations is mitigated by the deterrence it provides. After all, if we are willing to execute the innocent, we certainly would have no qualms about executing the guilty

 

What about the death penalty for people we have a high degree of certainty are guilty?

 

I think it should be without a doubt, including a harsh penalty for false testimony.

 

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The idea that the state can execute the innocent to protect the innocent is unacceptible ragardless of the numbers involved.

This is why self defense is so important.

The more we rely on the state to protect us, the more likely it becomes that the state will kill us in the attempt. Better to rely on ourselves for protection.

 

If them killing is wrong .... Than us killing is wrong .

 

I agree that some people are violent and demented savages who should not live among human beings. Having said that State sanctioned execution is murder. Furthermore it’s a clear violation of the 8th Amendment. These people need to be put in cages like we do with all dangerous animals. As already mentioned once a person is murdered by the state and later exonerated he/she cannot be given their life back. And the (in)justice system in the US is a seriously flawed profit driven industry so it is untrustworthy.

 

Not an argument against the death penalty.

 

It is only a difference of degree between ADX Florence and a noose.

Personally I'd only allow it for murder and rape, and it would consist of a conviction, the sentence, then a second retrial to appeal, then if found guilty again the perp is immediately taken outside and shot in the back of the head with a 1 ounce lead slug from a 12 gauge shotgun. Nobody survives that, nobody feels pain. Your head will no longer exist in an instant.

If I were on death row the waiting would be the bad part. The methods used are cruel, give them a bullet to the head.

 

then why don't you have an option for zero in your poll...killing a million butt-holes who deserve to die is nullified if one innocent person is murdered by the state on my behalf ...

 

We could have a higher threshold of evidence requirement for the death penalty. That is, in a particular case there might be strong enough evidence to convict the person and sentence them to life in prison, but the evidence might not be quite strong enough to sentence them to death.

 

I don't have a problem sentencing someone to the death penalty if it can be proved they lied to try to get someone convicted of a crime that would very likely carry the death penalty.

Such cases are very rare though. It's very hard to prove witnesses lied in criminal cases, especially after it already led to a conviction. And all the more so after it led to an execution. No one who was involved with sentencing someone to death wants to go back digging things up to see if there is a possibility they may have made a mistake.

 

Off topic and a troll post

 

Why? If you have a problem with an innocent being murdered. Every person on death row has had a trial and found guilty of murder. You libs get your panties in a wad when one of them gets executed. All I read is outrage because one in a hundred may be innocent. However, you have no problem with the fact that 50,000 babies are executed for every death row inmate who is offed. None of them get a trial and every one of them is innocent. But I guess I don't fit your lib narrative so that makes me a troll.

 

Source?