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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Etbauer

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    Well, but the reality is that you can't be smart and a trump supporter. So, that has something to do with it.
     
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    Why do you say that? If Trump implements policies that align with my interests, I would be stupid not to support him.

    If he were to cease to do so I would not support him.
     
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    Yeah, to some extent, there's people who hang on to him because they benefit from destroying America. However,that's rich people loke me, not like you.
     
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    As I said, I think it is the progressives who are destroying America through their attempts to fundamentally transform it.
     
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    Are you sure?
    He has given them jobs.
     
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    But wrote a constitution that was not just for White Supremacists.

    Since they wrote about equal for all. They did use Men, so, maybe the were sexist. But not white supremacists. Unless you think they were morons.
     
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    You don't think the founders and politicians of the US were White Supremacists until at least 1964?
     
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    Why do so many Progressives want a third world population?

    I am smart and honest and love America, so you've met one. You have probably met more than one but you discount people who love America if they disagree with your politics.
     
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    Only if they lied about equal for all men.

    Did they lie?
    Are the founders to be dismissed?
     
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    Because we know that we are all third world populations.

    No, I don't think you are or do. You can't love this country and trump, they are mutually exclusive.
     
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    They were saying nobody had a right to rule because they were born noble. TJ thought blacks were inferior to whites.

    So I ask you, did he lie, are the founders to be dismissed? Perhaps TJ thought blacks were subhuman and not to be included in that "all men" stuff.
     
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    Well, there is nothing more to be said.
     
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    Probably, there is no smart defense of your position, and I love my country. You don't. I don't knwo what else we can do, I don't know how to make you love America.
     
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    I can't go on perhaps. That is speculation and subject to interpretation and bias.

    I will go by written words. All Men are created equal.
    Either they meant this, or they lied. TJ in particular.

    The second paragraph of the United States Declaration of Independence starts as follows: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.-- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."[10]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal

    Did they practice what they preached?
    Some did not.
    Times were way way different.
    But to claim that White are the Supremes, is wishful thinking on your part.
    And against the teachings of Jesus. One you claim to follow religiously.
     
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    Oh, that last is easy. Tell me what you love about America, extol her virtues. Right now, all I have heard from you is scorn for people who disagree with you.

    Tell me what you love.
     
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    TJ was either lying about men being equal, or lying about blacks being inferior, or didn't consider blacks men. The last preserves TJ intellectual honesty and saves him from your charge of hypocrisy.
     
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    Oh sure, this is a country that isn't based on birthright, it based on ideas. It hates dictatorship and it appreciates skill. It was founded with the express idea of not being ruled by kings, and it was also founded to avoid religious persecution.
     
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    Thanks. So you like the ideas of the American founding. Myself, I like the American culture. It is the culture that Progressives are ripping up, and which they criticize endlessly as homophobic, sexist, racist, etc.
     
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    OK, then you believe the founders, TJ in particular, was a liar.

    So, no need to believe what they wrote then. Just make up whatever you want.
    Because we all know, that black men are men. Brown men are men. Asian men, are men.
    There are many men that are not just white men.

    Do you disagree? Do you think the only men in the world are only white? Jesus was not white. One of your claimed heroes of men.
     
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    Tell me what you love.[/QUOTE]
    Oh, it isn't just ideas, we have proven those ideas right over and over again. Also, we have proven racism and nationalism wrong over and over and over agian. There is no 'American' culture of course, our culture is just not killing other cultures.
     
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    And what about your scorn for any man that isn't white?
     
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    Also, dont' think that white people can't be corrupt. That is a stupid idea that has been proven wrong over and over again.
     
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    easy answer..

    trump was born wealthy...does that make him smart??

    he is proof money and intelligence are not the same

    I doubt a legitimate billionaire is posting on this board

    and he is president because the other republicans could not beat him

    AND

    Hillary was hated and Putin and Russia helped him cheat
     

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