DEFUND SANC CITIES AND STOP ANCHOR BABY LAW ....NOW!

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    just like drug dealers..... follow the law or pay the price (I do not agree with confiscation laws, but the precedent is already set)

    I never said they had to hire any class of people, just that they could not hire people illegally in this country...

    if we can arrest people and take everything they own for selling a plant, then this too is constitutional, corps are people to after all

    so if say Trump got caught knowingly hiring a illegal, the state gets to take everything he has
     
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  2. TheResister

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    So, if it's wrong, you just compound that wrong in order to achieve what you want? Let me tell you what is wrong with what you're saying:

    An employer owns the job he / she creates. The entire "illegal immigration" debate comes down to statutory laws that some misguided Americans believe makes foreigners "illegal." See, you cannot debate me over the employers rights. Yet you would toss the employer into prison for exercising his rights simply because there existed a law against someone you don't want to compete against. Two wrongs never make a right.

    What you suggest is immoral, illegal, unconscionable, and above all unconstitutional. I'm going to repeat something I quoted earlier and then explain this to you.

    "An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." (Thomas Paine, founding father)

    The United States Constitution only gives Congress the authority to "establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization." (Article 1 Section 8) There is not one, single, solitary sentence that gives Congress any federal authority over the migration of people (aka immigration.) And, for over a hundred years from the ratification of the Constitution the states had control of who could come and go within their state. The federal government only has de jure / lawful jurisdiction over citizenship (Naturalization.)

    Now, you presume my dog in the fight is foreigners. You've been programmed to think that I could not be against this wild interpretation the anti-immigrant lobby uses unless I was "for" the people you call illegals (sic.) You would be wrong. Someone should teach people the REAL CONSTITUTION. For example:

    I told you that Congress has NO constitutional authority over immigration. Tell you what though. You can start Googling and find out that the United States Supreme Court gave Congress plenary powers over immigration. The problem is, the United States Supreme Court was never given any such authority. IF it exists, you should be able to cite that portion of the Constitution.

    The major problem you have is that the United States Supreme Court cited the same portion of the Constitution to usurp constitutional authority with regards to many things like gun control (and most federal gun control laws are blatantly unconstitutional) as they did to take the state's authority on immigration: the Interstate Commerce Clause (Article 1 Section 8 Clause 3.) Under this clause, the United States Supreme Court has illegally taken over your Liberties. On gun control alone, there are more than 40,000 unconstitutional laws regarding firearms as a result of this power grab.

    Republicans used to warn that the government big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take all you have. Think about all the areas you know where the government is taking your Rights. It is the same misuse of the same part of the Constitution that tries to criminalize an employer's actions. And it doesn't stop there. I'm only giving you one fifth of the reason that what you are proposing is wrong. It goes deeper than you think.
     
  3. doombug

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    No, they can go back where their parents are from.
     
  4. VietVet

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    What I love about that story is how Rubio's parents wanted Cuba first, and reluctantly settled for the US, after they realized their wealth would be in jeopardy in Castro's Cuba.
    America was second choice.
    How fitting.
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    "Anchor Baby" (as Trump and Jeb! identified him) Little Marco has concocted a number of stories over the years, none of which admit that his parents came to the US before Castro was in power, and returned several times when he was.
     
  6. Papastox

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    The House is voting on the bill to defund sanctuary cities as well as Kate's Law this week.
     
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  7. TheResister

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    IF California can afford foreigners without using federal money, they have my personal blessing as well. But, in the event they should succeed, they will end up proving that the Republicans are right - government works best when it's controlled at the state and local level.
     

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