Democrat Ilhan Omar wins Minnesota House race

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  1. One Mind

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    Must be lots of muslim americans in that district?

    Nothing wrong about a muslim holding an office.
     
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    Man, this is great. Its like reading a history book from when women got elected for the first time. Or African Americans or gays...I could go on, but this is all to do about nothing. PS It used to be about Catholics who serve the Pope.
     
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    For a lot of buddhists (not all), being respectfull to your country is quite the same as being respectfull to the Buddha. But buddhism is not really a consistant religion

    I'm quite islamophobic, I dislikes the islamic texts and opposed to any massive muslim migrations but I think it really depend of the people which get elected. For a lot of muslims, they consider their religion as "not eating pork" and do ramadan, they often forget to not drink alcohol but then they don't consider the quran very seriously, and even less the hadiths.

    If it's a Linda Sarsour-alike (this woman defend shariah and female genital mutilation), yes there is a huge problem . If they're just secularized, they're just people with terrible tastes for book. Not the first, not the last.
     
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    The Minnesota seat was previously held by the Muslim Ellison.
     
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    And how many call themselves Christian American when they run for political office?
    They all say they are American then that they are christian, or whatever invisible man they believe in last.
     
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    That's because they are usually the kind of people who think Americans are Christian by default.
     
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    They could at least, being leaders, advocate for it - people would change voluntarily, as of course their is no official "Pope" of Islam. It would simply be the ethically right thing to do - but I don't expect them to do that.
     
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    I love Muslims - probably more than you do because I doubt you won't condemn them for giving their children texts that say to beat women. Sharia Law won't happen overnight, but like parts of Europe, Sharia tolerance will become more and more prevalent unless we take a stand.
    What are the 3 more barbaric parts of Sharia Law, in your opinion, MicrobeCleaner (or are you not learned enough in Islam to answer that question)?
    Have a great day.
     
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    So they would call for what? Every copy of the Quran that doesn't have that change to be destroyed?
     
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    You love them so much you would put them in concentration camps if you got scared enough.
     
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    You appear to not understand that there are a whopping 164 Jihad-enabling verses in the Qur'an alone - not even counting the hadith and Mohammad's example.
     
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    No books need to be destroyed/burned - just create new versions that rise to the ethical level of Modern Secular Humanists. We can both agree that Mohammad saying to beat women in Q4:34 (Shakir) was an evil thing for humanity, no (or are instructions, by an all-knowing god no less, to beat innocent people, fine and dandy with you)? Just think of how many innocent people will be beaten THIS MONTH just because 22% of the world's population lacks the moral back-bone to change an ancient book.
     
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    You appear to not understand that Muslims are not robots and pick and choose for their religious texts just like followers of every other religion.
     
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    Cool, so it will result in nothing happening because the extremists would still be able to find, use, and teach the version that still has everything they want in it.
     
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    Nonsense - you don't seem to understand me on this issue.
    Camps would fortunately be so far far down the road that it's hard for us to really truly feel the gravity of the situation of a world-wide Jihad that I'm not going to even, today, entertain anymore the possibility of camps. It’s simply too much of a stretch for you to reasonably comprehend, and I myself have to make too many assumptions to determine when camps would be acceptable - if ever. I can discuss this further, if, say, The president ever proposes the idea as an actual law. Let’s discuss it further THEN.

    I ABHOR camps, I just don't know exactly at what point reasonable people would say "we are facing daily street battles with Muslims on US soil, so let's consider segregating the Muslims, to save our lives"......let's hope it never gets there – I doubt it will. And if it does, let's strongly revisit this issue.

    It's hard to, today, envision a scenario where camps would be advisable - the only reason I'd think camps would seriously be proposed would be if more Muslims start to actually FOLLOW their Qur’an (such as Qur'an 8:39 – it instructs Muslims to fight us until the whole world is Islamic.)
     
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    Nonsense. It's obviously an all-or-nothing proposition, to be sure, but it would be a step in the right direction - can we at least agree that creating a far less barbaric version of the Islamic texts, while no panacea, would be a good thing?
     
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    And when we get there, I will still oppose putting innocent people in concentration, while you will your supposed "love" of Muslims will support them out of fear.
     
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    Not ALL Muslims have to follow their texts for it to be bad, just like NOT ALL Nazis had to participate in the Holocaust for Nazism to be a real problem for the civilized world. Fortunately the Islamic texts are not convincing enough (because it's not actually from Allah) to get ALL Muslims to follow it.
    Can we agree that I am right saying that women should not be beaten, and that Mohammad was wrong to say to beat women, Questerr?
     
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    Its a step in no direction aka it does nothing. There are already millions of Muslims who de facto do this already by just not following those portions of the Quran.
     
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    Are you evil because you follow a Constitution that says non-whites only count as 3/5ths a person?
     
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    Yeah, OK. I'm sure Sharia is just around the corner now.
     
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    Daily running street battles (pray to Chuck Norris that we never get there) with Muslims would likely change your mind - unless you can't grasp the idea that Jihad is a religiously-motivated thing (so you think that Jihad is simply cuddly/righteous Muslims fighting back against evil Western Trump-like imperialism just to get their oil, or other similar nonsense.)

    Once you understand where their hatred towards innocent people (infidels) comes from, you'll see things my way: https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html
     
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    Some people being guilty of violence doesn't justify imprisoning innocent people. I'm sorry your hatred of theists blinds you to that fact.
     
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    How about, like the AMENDMENTS to the Constitution, you at least endorse amending the Islamic texts? Or do 164 Jihad-enabling verses not present a problem to you?
     
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    I love them more than you do because you lack the ethical courage to condemn verses such as 9:5, and 9:29, etc.
     
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