Democrats face rocky road ahead of midterms.

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Matthewthf, Aug 18, 2021.

  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    6,923
    Likes Received:
    4,269
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Republicans just won a Senate House seat in CT in a suburban district that voted overwhelmingly for Biden. Ryan Fazio beat out a incumbent 2 term Democrat.

    A string of election wins for Republicans since the Senate GA race defeats has greatly improved morale among Republicans and is a hopefully sign that the Democrats are losing popularity.

    Several weeks from now Andrew Cuomo will resign and Gavin Newsom may lose his Govenor seat as well thus giving Republicans needed boosts in both states and send a message Republicans can win in even the most liberal states in the country.

    Both Govenor seats are also up for re-election in the 2022 midterms. Larry Elder is using the state wide school mask mandate in California to encourage voters tired of the covid restrictions to vote for him. Other races this year include the Virginia Govenor seat.

    The house will be lost to the Republicans in the midterms and while the Senate is a toss up, recent polls show PA the most flippable state for Democrats to only be a 50/50 right now. Biden was losing popularity before the blunder in Afghanistan where he left 10,000 Americans temporarily stranded and Kamala Harris is even less popular.

    The Democrats are facing a rocky road for upcoming elections.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,020
    Likes Received:
    39,229
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And Biden and Pelosi and Schumer and Harris aren't helping.
     
    Jolly Penguin and Matthewthf like this.
  3. wist43

    wist43 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,285
    Likes Received:
    1,313
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's harder to cheat in the midterms - or at least the effect is lessened.

    The House doesn't matter, b/c those areas where the Dems can cheat the easiest are already Dem strongholds.

    Where the cheating can help them the most would be in Senate races, but I don't know whose seats are up.

    The '22 election is still a ways off... you have to expect they'll hatch some crazy plan - and get away with it.
     
  4. Big Richard

    Big Richard Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2021
    Messages:
    2,437
    Likes Received:
    2,645
    Trophy Points:
    113
    With the damage the idiot Xiden has done in the last 8 Months by the time elections roll around we will see a YUGE exit of Dems .
     
    JET3534, FatBack and Matthewthf like this.
  5. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    6,923
    Likes Received:
    4,269
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There is many seats up for re-election but most are safe seats for both parties.

    Democrats have a very small chance to flip a seat in FL, OH and IA. NC is advantage GOP but still a toss up.

    WI and PA are the only two states they have a good chance of flipping but polls show they are not doing so good in both states.

    Republicans have a small chance of flipping NV and a likely chance of flipping AZ and GA. NH is a 50/50 if the popular govenor, Republican Sunnunu runs. If not they have a small chance of winning there.

    CNN tried to claim MO was flippable for Democrats but Fox News pointed out that the only contender who could possibly win for Democrats there has announced he is not interested in running.

    So to sum it all up Democrats may take PA and WI and Republicans will likely take AZ and GA with NH being if Sunnunu runs.

    I think all others states listed will stay with current party including NC.
     
  6. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    6,923
    Likes Received:
    4,269
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Democrats announced a plan already to keep the house by defending I think it was 22 house seats. I don't get thier thinking in only defending a small number of seats.
     
  7. wist43

    wist43 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,285
    Likes Received:
    1,313
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I live in WI, and trust me - there is plenty of Dem cheating in Milwaukee and Madison.

    In 2016, I don't think they really thought Trump had a chance, so they were slack, but in '20 they pulled out all the stops.

    They'll keep it going from now on.
     
    Matthewthf likes this.
  8. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,654
    Likes Received:
    27,189
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "Cheating" how? Forgive me if I don't take your word for it simply because you live in the area.
     
  9. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's funny. You think politicians *think*? Ha Ha.
     
  10. wist43

    wist43 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,285
    Likes Received:
    1,313
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Like everywhere else, the Dems are fighting hard to prevent audits, but in this last election I think most of it was done with thru the mail-in scam.

    With no real audits, all we have is the affidavits of witnesses and some hinky looking numbers. They put it in front of a Democrat judge who dismisses it, and the deed is done.

    Wisconsin is pushing forward, at least ostensibly, with an investigation; but it is headed up by a former WI SC Justice that I don't trust.

    I used to live right across the street from a polling place in Milwaukee. What they used to do there was load up a van with 10 or so people and drive around to all the precincts. Each person was given the name and address of someone who was on the voter rolls, but was known to be dead or moved and they would vote under that name. They'd drive around all day doing that. Dozens of vans. They'd brag about it.

    Throw on top of that, the Republicans had a "Get out the vote" thing going one year, and the son of Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Mil) and some of his hoodlum buddies went and slashed the tires of all the vans - so much for Republicans voting, lol... they ultimately were caught on surveillance cameras, but got off b/c they're Democrats. Kids having some harmless fun ;)
     
    Matthewthf likes this.
  11. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,654
    Likes Received:
    27,189
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You think there was a mail-in scam, yet there is no evidence for that. Not even the fraudit in Arizona has found evidence of it. Repeated recounts by far more competent and unbiased people in several states haven't found evidence of the fraud you assert existed.

    Get lost with your "no real audits." If you have no evidence, then you have nothing. I could just as easily be addressing the fake 45th president or any of his partners in fraud, such as that raving kook Lindell.

    Votes by dead people would have been turned up if there were any. In fact, at least one such case was discovered, but of course that was a Trump voter who cast a ballot for his wife, whom he had murdered.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2021
    Rampart, AZ. and Derideo_Te like this.
  12. wist43

    wist43 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,285
    Likes Received:
    1,313
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A recount is not an audit... of course a recount is going to give a reasonably close result to the original.

    P.S. I'm not a Republican, I'm a libertarian. But I have decades of experience dealing with the Democratic political machine.

    Never met an honest Democrat - never. "The ends justifies the means".
     
    10A, JET3534 and Matthewthf like this.
  13. wist43

    wist43 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,285
    Likes Received:
    1,313
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You do realize that recounts are not the same thing as audits??

    Don't you want honest, accurate elections??
     
    Wynn Sayer and Matthewthf like this.
  14. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,615
    Likes Received:
    32,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "Andrew Cuomo will resign and Gavin Newsom may lose his Govenor seat as well thus giving Republicans needed boosts"

    Lolwut?
    Give Republicans "needed boosts" (in NY and CA)? How?

    BOTH Governorships (in any event) will STILL be held by Democrats.
     
    Rampart likes this.
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, but I also want elections where nobody is disenfranchised for being old or disabled or poor.

    Please tell me how passing laws that limit when people can vote, or limiting the number of polling places is supposed to make elections more secure.
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Once a Democratic candidate loses a primary, or resigns, the mind control rays have to be reset. Some people can come to their senses before the nefarious radiations are reestablished. Either that or the elections can just be "audited" forever for no reason
     
  17. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    6,923
    Likes Received:
    4,269
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Polls show that people are about split 50/50 on if Newsom should be recalled. He has lost popularity. Even Gavin is worried thus why he wants Biden to come campaign with him.

    Republicans are motivated but the Democrats far outnumber them and that may be to big of a hurdle to overcome for Republicans.

    The GOP (party campaign group) in both states has been shrinking and seeing less money. Republican voters have not been motivated. Winning a Govenor seat in California would be big for the GOP.

    I don't expect Gavin Newsom to lose but it is as much possible as Donald Trump winning in 2016.
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Electoral College is not a factor in gubernatorial contests.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2021
    Rampart likes this.
  19. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,760
    Likes Received:
    3,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Virginia is vulnerable for the dems as far as the governor's race. McAuliffe, who held the office previously, is below 50 and only up by 2. The GOP tends to overperform their polling in the state. Gun control is a big issue even with enough democrats that it is the one thing Northam and his big city block of liberal democrats have been able to get no traction on even controlling both chambers.

    As for 2022, that is a ways to go. I have no idea about the Senate yet but I expect the GOP to take back the house because of redistricting, differential turn out, yada yada yada but not in a landslide red wave fashion.
     
    Matthewthf likes this.
  20. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,615
    Likes Received:
    32,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    BUT, even IF Newson did get recalled...
    ...He would be replaced by Paffrath (a Democrat)...

    No Repub. is going to get near the Cali Governorship.
     
  21. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    31,737
    Likes Received:
    7,802
    Trophy Points:
    113

    it depends upon which party wins. If Democrat, no.
     
    Matthewthf likes this.
  22. Wynn Sayer

    Wynn Sayer Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2021
    Messages:
    890
    Likes Received:
    478
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Not when they have cheating downpat. In b4 there's twice as many Dem votes as registered Dem voters in a district.
     
    Matthewthf likes this.
  23. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,654
    Likes Received:
    27,189
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Which brand of nominally conservative goofiness you prefer doesn't matter. Your assuming there is cheating and corruption without supporting evidence does, however, and what you're saying about the hard-working, honest people who count and verify votes is disgusting.

    Trump attacks people in disgusting ways all the time. It's in his nature and how he was raised by his psychopathic father. So, of course he doesn't mind slandering such people if he deems it convenient. But that doesn't make it right or acceptable. Plus, Trump isn't even giving money donated by suckers to these frauditors. He's spending it on himself instead.

    Fraudits conducted by lying trumpers aren't better than recounts and audits done by actual election officials and workers. All these frauditors are doing is raising stupid non-questions and profiting off of corruption and dishonesty.
     
    Rampart likes this.
  24. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2016
    Messages:
    3,613
    Likes Received:
    2,728
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Exactly! When Republicans are losing - it means Democrats are cheating.
    When Republicans are caught cheating - they are not Republicans, they are RINO.
    Here are some RINOs:
    https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2021/02/16/murphys-law-10-republicans-accused-of-voter-fraud/

    https://www.businessinsider.com/voter-election-fraud-pennsylvania-charge-dead-mom-vote-trump-2020-12

    https://www.salon.com/2020/11/06/re...-mass-election-fraud-in-pennsylvania_partner/
     
  25. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2016
    Messages:
    3,613
    Likes Received:
    2,728
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I trust you - even you have no evidence Democrats committed a fraud - I trust you.
    Can you trust me too and send me $1000? I will give you back $2000 - trust me!
     
    a777pilot likes this.

Share This Page