Democrats leading America into being a second class nation.

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  1. Rampart

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    justification? i don't want these girls to be raped by anyone.
     
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    Wouldn't this be a problem with the Trump administration as well as technology doesn't change radically in 10 months?
    Wouldn't the US officials who issued these warnings be part of the Biden Administration and therefore indicate that administrations concern?
     
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    And yet your first retort..
    Sugar coated, feel good and not a big deal right :)
     
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    1. www.nbcnews.com › politics › 2020-electionBiden's comments downplaying China threat to U.S. fire up ...
      Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden said Wednesday night that China was “not competition” for the U.S., prompting blowback from prominent members of both political parties.
     
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    But see, the right wingers in many occasions are even against legal immigration; the kind that brings us doctors and nurses and engineers and information technology specialists from India, the Philippines, etc., highly educated people we didn't spend a cent to educate, so that we benefit from their training instead of the countries that educated them. Republican administrations have curtailed H1B visas, which is profoundly stupid because it decreases the competitiveness of our corporations. If anything we need more H1B visa holders who later need to be granted greencards so that they stay and then naturalize Americans. These are people who pay taxes, generate jobs, and enhance our scientific productivity.

    It's not the fault of just one party. Both parties make stupid moves that help countries like China and Singapore in getting an edge over us.

    I'm strongly against illegal immigration and for very careful vetting of refugees, and a limited number of refugees (other countries need to step up, too). But I'm very for legal immigration of skilled professionals.

    I think both parties make mistakes, which is why I'm an independent, non-affiliated voter.
     
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    No what is leading us into being a second class nation is the Biden policy of a steady flood of low educated immigrants.

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    The media never picked up on what Trump was doing either through ignorance or by design. He worked hard on other countries to source from countries other than China. That was to attempt to interrupt their Belt and Road program which would hurt their plans. At that time it was predicted that China only had about ten years to secure what they needed before they would be in trouble.
     
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    He instituted some tariffs, not that it was enough to resolve the problem. The only other thing I would recommend would to be mirror some of China's laws. For instance A foreign investor cannot be a majority stake holder in a Chinese business enterprise. We should pass a law requiring the same thing to countries with such laws in order to set up shop in the U.S. We should retaliate to every effort China makes to control us.
     
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    Both parties are leading America into being a second class nation. There are no good guys here. Just a lesser evil depending on whose BS you chose to believe
     
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    Has Biden placed these low educated immigrants in charge of "artificial intelligence" or "advanced technology" ? If he hasn't I don't see how that has any effect on our technology war with China or our failures there in the last 10 months that you speak of.
     
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    No, but a country can let in only the amount it can support. When you let in millions of low educated immigrants, they take the spot of higher educated people that can help America. We already allow in around one million people a year legally. Not saying immigration should only let in well qualified people, that isn't right either. But we should have a better balance of people we allow in. For years America has let in people from around the world. So many from many different countries so many have a chance to make it. That plan seems to have been tossed out for who ever can cross our Southern border. Do you really think it's right what Biden is doing? Who is going to take care of them? Not only does he want an unending stream of people, he wants to bring in all of their family, from parents, aunts/uncles and grand parents.Now your even talking of millions more in chain migration.
     
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    How are lower ecucated people taking important jobs from higher educated people?
    I am not saying what has happened at the border has been handled well by this administration because it hasn't. It also was handled poorly by the last administration.The problem goes back years and through many Presidents who haven't improved it much. It seems that the party out of power has no desire to work with the party in power to solve the problem.
    We should hold all politicians who can not work on taking reasonable steps toward solving the problem responsible. Blame has never solved this problem.
     
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    It comes down to manufacturing. If we continue to allow all the high tech electronics to be manufactured in Asia, then China doesn't need to do anything but wait for the designs to be handed to their manufacturers.

    As for education, that is laughable. There are several red states that have their own versions of free community college. Attaching a good idea to a laundry list of bad ideas in a single bill does not make opposing the bill opposing the one good idea in it.
     
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    You radical lefts just don’t mind violence against women at all do you.
     
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    Read an article today about our military not being able to supply allies should a conflict occur.

    The supply chain crisis is about a lot more than consumer goods.
     
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    Democrats wouldn't mind keeping America a first rate country, but it keeps getting in the way of their prime (one and only) goal of securing totalitarian political power.
     
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    Damn right! Just how many "jobs that Americans won't do" do people think are out there...are they all gonna make $15 an hour...we're being set up for a social and economic cataclysm....the rich idiots promoting this crap forget that historically when poverty hits a tipping point the poor and downtrodden don't storm hovels....
     
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    We can also stop their secret recruitment of our university scientists.

    COLLUSION: Confronted by investigators, Harvard scientist admits to payments from Chinese university, video shows.

    “Prosecutors have told jurors it wasn’t a crime for Lieber to accept money from the university or the Thousand Talents program, created by the Chinese government to recruit high-level scientists, but it was illegal for him to hide his financial arrangement from the US Department of Defense and the National Institutes of Health, which funded much of his research at Harvard. He is charged with making false statements to the government, filing false tax returns, and failing to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.”
     
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    Eva Fu via The Epoch Times,

    "The former chair of Harvard University’s chemistry department accused of hiding Chinese ties had admitted to taking tens of thousands of dollars from China"

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    Not Hunter Level Bribes.​
    “Now that you bring it up, yes, I do remember,”

    On the payroll of the lying outlaw slavers of Beijing.
     
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    Fake News. Constitutional Conservatives, in many occasions, simply want the laws passed by our representatives in Congress and duly signed into law, followed. That is the basis of our Constitutional Liberal Democracy. Where the law permits legal immigration, permit it. Where it is forbidden, prevent it.
    In our Constitutional Liberal Democracy, immigration law is determined by our Elected Legislature. Where they have delegated authority to the President, the president may exercise it. Where the Elected Congress disagrees with how that delegated authority is handled, they are free to either withdraw it or further restrict how it may be used.
    China spreads a LOT of money around in our institutions and we find them operating more consistently with that influence than our interests. China's massive trade deficit that decimated our working class, largely formed under GOP Congresses, and here again, Congress has constitutional authority over trade, only delegating what it wishes to the president. Mitch's father in law, for example, is a ship builder for the CCP. To say that our representatives, universities, media, professional sports and entertainment industry are heavily infiltrated is an understatement.
    That is a position that most of the country agrees with.
    Personally I think Hispanics' rising opposition to legal immigration would subside if illegal immigration was stopped.
     
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    You make good points.
     
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