Democrats now making it legal for ILLEGAL aliens to vote in upcoming elections

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  1. KJohnson

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    As I have been stating for some time since the forming of sanctuary cities all across the U.S. that the democrats have created these places to harvest votes NOT because they feel soft hearted about helping these people and keeping them safe. If so, is that also why they continue to harbor gangs, drug lords, human traffickers, and MS13 too which they continue to hide from ICE? Nah.....

    IT'S ALL ABOUT THE VOTES!

    Not only that, but if anyone was really paying attention in 2016, they would have clearly seen OBAMA and the rest were rigging elections and allowing them to vote in that election too. If the truth were known and not kept hidden, Hillary didn't win the popular vote either if discounting all the illegal election fraud that took place. So now the democrats are slithering out from under their rocks and making their corruption more blatantly obvious because apparently they think their voter base is either that stupid or brainwashed, that they'll buy anything at this point.

    http://abc11.com/news/new-evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-nc-alleged/23005/

    https://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

    losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/04/04/california-million-drivers-licenses-undocumented-immigrants/

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...inds-dozens-ballots-stacked-outside-home.html

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/florida-elections-worker-alleges/2016/11/04/id/757191/

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2017...oters-outnumber-eligible-voters-462-counties/

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10...go-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/

    https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...n-votes-2016-offers-details-voter-fraud-probe

    https://cis.org/Cadman/Chicago-Dilu...g-Illegal-Alien-ID-Card-Registration-Document

    https://www.motherjones.com/politic...-some-elections-but-ice-could-keep-them-away/





    The Cost of Illegal Immigration to the United States
    At the federal, state, and local levels, taxpayers shell out approximately $134.9 billion to cover the costs incurred by the presence of more than 12.5 million illegal aliens, and about 4.2 million citizen children of illegal aliens. That amounts to a tax burden of approximately $8,075 per illegal alien family member and a total of $115,894,597,664. The total cost of illegal immigration to U.S. taxpayers is both staggering and crippling. In 2013, FAIR estimated the total cost to be approximately $113 billion. So, in under four years, the cost has risen nearly $3 billion. This is a disturbing and unsustainable trend. The sections below will break down and further explain these numbers at the federal, state, and local levels.

    Total Governmental Expenditures on Illegal Aliens
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    Total Tax Contributions by Illegal Aliens
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    Total Economic Impact of Illegal Immigration
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    Federal
    The Federal government spends a net amount of $45.8 billion on illegal aliens and their U.S.-born children. This amount includes expenditures for public education, medical care, justice enforcement initiatives, welfare programs and other miscellaneous costs. It also factors in the meager amount illegal aliens pay to the federal government in income, social security, Medicare and excise taxes.

    FEDERAL SPENDING
    The approximately $46 billion in federal expenditures attributable to illegal aliens is staggering. Assuming an illegal alien population of approximately 12.5 million illegal aliens and 4.2 million U.S.-born children of illegal aliens, that amounts to roughly $2,746 per illegal alien, per year. For the sake of comparison, the average American college student receives only $4,800 in federal student loans each year.

    FAIR maintains that every concerned American citizen should be asking our government why, in a time of increasing costs and shrinking resources, is it spending such large amounts of money on individuals who have no right, nor authorization, to be in the United States? This is an especially important question in view of the fact that the illegal alien beneficiaries of American taxpayer largess offset very little of the enormous costs of their presence by the payment of taxes. Meanwhile, average Americans pay approximately 30% of their income in taxes.

    Federal Education - $1.6 Billion
    Federal Medical Costs - $17.1 Billion
    Federal Justice Expenditures - $13.1 Billion
    Federal Welfare Programs - $5.8 Billion
    Total Federal Expenditures - $45.8 Billion

    FEDERAL TAXES
    Taxes collected from illegal aliens offset fiscal outlays and, therefore must be included in any examination of the cost of illegal immigration. However, illegal alien apologists frequently cite the allegedly large tax payments made by illegal aliens as a justification for their unlawful presence, and as a basis for offering them permanent legal status through a new amnesty, similar to the one enacted in 1986. That argument is nothing more than a red herring.

    FAIR believes that most studies grossly overestimate both the taxes actually collected from illegal aliens and, more importantly, the amount of taxes actually paid by illegal aliens (i.e., the amount of money collected from illegal aliens and actually kept by the federal government). This belief is based on a number of factors: Since the 1990’s, the United States has focused on apprehending and removing criminal aliens. The majority of illegal aliens seeking employment in the United States have lived in an environment where they have little fear of deportation, even if discovered. This has created an environment where most illegal aliens are both able and willing to file tax returns. Because the vast majority of illegal aliens hold low-paying jobs, those who are subject to wage deductions actually wind up receiving a complete refund of all taxes paid, plus net payments made on the basis of tax credits.

    As a result, illegal aliens actually profit from filing a tax return and, therefore, have a strong interest in doing so.

    Federal Tax Receipts from Illegal Aliens - $22.1 Billion
    TOTAL FEDERAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
    Net Federal Impact of Illegal Aliens - $30.4 Billion
    State and Local
    Even though the costs of illegal immigration borne by taxpayers at the federal level are staggering, they only pale in comparison to the fiscal burden shouldered by taxpayers at the state level. Most government taxes and fees remitted to government by Americans are paid in forms other than income taxes submitted to the IRS on April 15th. There are city and state income taxes, fuel surcharges, sales and property taxes, etc…. States and localities also bear the main burden for costs associated with public education, city and county infrastructure, and local courts and jails.

    A further complication is the fact that, while barred from many federal benefits, state laws allow illegal aliens to access many state-funded social welfare programs. Because so little data is collected on the immigration status of individuals collecting benefits, it is difficult to determine the rate at which illegal aliens use welfare programs. However, based on the average income of illegal alien households, it appears they use these programs at a rate higher than lawfully present aliens or citizens.

    STATE AND LOCAL SPENDING
    The combined total of state and local government general expenditures on illegal aliens is $18,571,428,571 billion. The services referenced in this section are supported directly by the payment of city and state taxes and related fees. At the state level, examples of general expenditures would be the costs of general governance, fire departments, garbage collection, street cleaning and maintenance, etc. The state, county or municipality — or even a special taxing district in some situations — may provide some of these services. In most cases, localities offer more services than the state. By FAIR’s estimate, there is approximately a 65 percent to 35 percent cost share between local and state governments.

    The estimate of general expenditure services received by illegal alien households, beyond the specific outlays mentioned in the sections above, excludes capital expenditures and debt servicing. The calculation for each state is based on the state’s annual operating budget, reduced by the amount covered by the federal government. That expenditure is then reduced further based on the relative size of the estimated population of illegal aliens and their U.S.-born minor children. As noted in our population estimate, this means states like California, Texas, Florida, New York, etc., with larger illegal alien cohorts, will bear larger shares of these costs.

    State Educational Expenditures - $44.4 Billion
    State Medical Expenditures - $12.1 Billion
    State Administration of Justice Expenditures - $10.8 Billion
    State Welfare Expenditures - $2.9 Billion
    State and Local Expenditures - $88 Billion

    STATE AND LOCAL TAXES COLLECTED


    Offsetting the fiscal costs of the illegal alien population are the taxes collected from them at the state and local level. Many proponents of illegal immigration argue that the taxes paid to the states render illegal aliens a net boon to state and local economies. However, this is a spurious argument. Evidence shows that the tax payments made by illegal aliens fail to cover the costs of the many services they consume.

    Illegal aliens are not typical taxpayers. First, as previously noted in this study, the large percentage of illegal aliens who work in the underground economy frequently avoid paying any income tax at all. (Many actually receive a net cash profit through refundable tax credit programs.) Second, and also previously noted, the average earnings of illegal alien households are considerably lower than both legal aliens and native-born workers.

    State Taxes Collected - $3.5 Billion
    TOTAL STATE AND LOCAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
    Net State Impact - $85 Billion

    Combined Federal State Cost Tables
    Federal and State Fiscal Outlays - $134 Billion
    Federal and State Tax Contributions - $18 Billion
    Net Cost of Illegal Immigration - $115 Billion


    https://www.fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-us-elections
     
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  2. RichT2705

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    Great post.

    The Democrats can't hide it anymore. They've sold out our Nation to the world, and want wide open borders where anyone can just walk in and use our Emergency rooms and run up tabs for us to pay, push down the wages of Citizens, commit crimes and change our demographics for the worse.


    DNC deputy chair is on record claiming National borders create injustice. Anyone that votes Democrat knowing this is an enemy of this Republic.
     
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  3. KJohnson

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    Absolutely
     
  4. Durandal

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    Can someone net it out for me? I see nothing in the OP to support the assertion made.
     
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    ROFLMAO :bonk::deadhorse:
     
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    Does it really matter, the sanctity of the democratic process? I think we're past all that now...

    I mean, the left has proved over the past 20 months that they will only accept victory, so votes and majorities are immaterial, the democratic process moot, pointless... in effect, we have entered into an environment where brute force rules, might makes right....and leftists are to blame.

    Make them choke on it.
     
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    I'll take that as a "nyet".
     
  8. KJohnson

    KJohnson Well-Known Member

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    That explains it, I thought you might be Russian.
     
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    I understand, comrade.
     
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    I don’t know about any place else, but California has certainly not made it legal for undocumented to vote.
     
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    So you are saying the Returdlicker monitors assigned to each polling station are all complete idiots????I AGREE!!
     
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    Of course, do you think obama told illegal aliens to vote for nothing?
     
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    I hope other states are not using the California model but yes, we sanctioned more than sanctuary cities, voters in CA cities have voted so that illegals can vote.

    Their excuse is that it is just for school boards. To hell with that. They know that doing that leads to illegals getting to vote in everything. We have a lousy ballot application form and the mail in ballots only ask you to say you are a citizen. We have long known illegals that do not fear killing Kate Steinle have no fear of voting.
     
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    Whuts wrong with being Russian?
     
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    Democrats deny he said that but I have posted video upon video proving he did say that illegals need to vote that it is their right to vote.
     
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    We did make it legal for illegals to vote.
     
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    This is all fake news. . .alt-right propaganda. Not true. Total BS.
     
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    Driving isn’t voting
     
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    i will be damned. You told the truth. Thanks.
     
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    It’s strange the right bitches about votes as if they matter while cheering that Trump lost by over two and a half million voters that have their voices silenced. The illegals would mostly effect arrears that vote primarily left so nationally this would change nothing. Futhermore the right is the primary beneficiary of fraudulent gerrymandering. Both sides are guilty and neither side cares what the public thinks. To believe your side is somehow better than the other proves you are a partisan hack.
     
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    It is legal for illegals to votes in Kapustastan.
     
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    Here's why Hillary won the popular vote.

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    Yeah they slip it in and then expand on it. They voted in last election but had to hide it hoping not to get caught but too many people know what they're up to and so now they changed it so they vote legally in this next one. And who is keeping an eye on this to make sure only in schools which they shouldn't be able to do anyway. THESE ARE ILLEGALS ..what doesn't anyone get about that? They should have NO RIGHTS. It's election rigging plain and simple.
     
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    my god man...what news channels are you watching?
     
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    But not yet in statewide or federal elections, correct?

    Still even in local elections this is a Diablo wind that must be embayed before it becomes a hurricane.
     

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