DeSantis says no new lockdowns, mask mandates or any ...

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is your right to infect yourself and spread covid-19 everywhere you go with your cheap mask.
     
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    Also this. Florida's deaths are about to skyrocket. We could be looking at an 35-40% increase thanks to selfish holiday travelers and general anti-masker trash life.

     
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    You are mistaken, I have no such right and neither does anyone else.

    I was wearing 2 layer cotton masks by the end of January. Starting mid February I was crafting my own masks using cotton, silk, chiffon, and melt blown polypropylene. From there through May I kept reading material studies and improving my design/fabrication process ultimately being able to produce a fully fitted, no-stitch, heat sealed, near-grade face mask. By mid July I was able to start purchasing legitimate N95 masks from a trusted supplier and I've been using those ever since.

    At no point did I ever use any mask for more than a single outing. Furthermore I work from home, I have switched virtually 99% of my shopping to curbside and delivery, I don't go to restaurants and I don't attend social gatherings. I spent the entire year of 2020 dedicated to being as removed from this pandemic as possible both for the health of myself and my family and also because my faith commands me to serve others especially at the expense of trivial pleasures. I flat out refuse to be a selfish ignorant belligerent participant in contributing to the spread of sickness and I was also hoping that I could be serving my county as well by doing my part to contain the outbreak.
     
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    How can you live in such a constant state of terror? Seriously, I can't understand people like that.
     
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    Well there's your problem right there, Jake. Its not about fear its about service. Service to family, to neighbor, to community, to country, to God. Americans have been asked to serve before, and our better generations always said yes. People stood in bread lines, people endured fuel shortages, people forwent amenities to aid in war production, a lot of people gave up everything to go fight in foxholes - we're being asked wear facemasks and stand a few feet away from people while we do our shopping. We have it so easy by comparison and yet we disgrace ourselves daily over this selfish, belligerent, Godless, COVID attitude.
     
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    So you don't wear your seatbelt? Lock your doors? Eat healthily? Exercise? Stop at stop signs?

    If you do, why are you living in fear?
     
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    Compared to full lockdown California? The alternative isn't zero deaths. It's either more or fewer. Florida is in the fewer range.
     
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    True. If California hadn't done what they're doing there would be more deaths. If Florida had done anything there would have been fewer deaths. We have to stop the debate on who's got the most deaths and start doing anything we can to make sure that any count is as low as we can possibly make it.
     
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    As I said, you can wear your covid-19 spreading mask anywhere you want to and have a right to infect yourself doing so too. If you think that serves God, that's what you think. You could carry an anti-covid 19 rabbit's foot too, though that wouldn't harm anyone or you.
     
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    I understand you think the government should control what people may and may not eat and government ordered exercising. You think that you should be able to control every second of my life. But should I then control every second of your life? Continuously wear a heart monitoring meter? Security bars on the windows. Always have a phone in your hand ready to dial 911?

    OK, tell how you eat a perfect diet and your strict exercise routine - and prove that is the safest. It's your claim that the highest priority of your life is to never do anything dangerous - meaning you never leave your home, do you?

    What did you have for dinner yesterday and exactly what exercising did you do in your home and for how long? You do have an oxygen measuring meter in your home isolation, don't you?

    Then again maybe you have some metaphysical insight that death is aggressively pursuing you waiting for the 1 second you let your guard down. If so, good luck.
     
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    LOL! Yeah, like that makes sense. There are vastly stricter mask and lock down mandates in California - with the result being higher death rates than in Florida. Therefore, you insist Florida should have the same strict mask and lockdown rules.

    A Democrat who has twisted logic hoping Republicans die like Democrats are dying? No surprise about that.

    QUICK - rush to the most crowded WalMart you can get to. You'll be safe from covid-19 there.
     
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    LOL wut?

    Eat McDonald's every day, spend 10 hours a day on the couch, leave your doors unlocked at night, rip that mask off and go suck face with people on gurneys on their way to the hospital with COVID. For sure, rip that seat belt right out of your car.

    Freedumb baby. It's not my place to tell you otherwise.

    Just don't hurt me while you are on your crash & burn fest.
     
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    Yes, THANK YOU DeSantis! Florida really is turning out to be an interesting case study in opposition to the extremists calling for shutdowns and mask mandates. Florida has neither, you'd think we'd all be dead by now (especially with such an elderly population) and yet we're actually doing better than some of the strictest states like California and New York. Go figure.


    Florida actually IS doing well. You're talking total numbers (ironically that includes the beginning when Florida was shutdown and masks were mandated in most areas.) The real test is since September when Florida fully reopened and mask mandates were banned. If the fearmongering were true, we should be doing exponentially worse now (especially with so many seniors in Florida) and yet we're actually doing better than some of the strictest states like California and New York. Go figure.

    I would recommend you read the article. It actually has a lot of hard numbers to support the hypothesis.

    Having been fully reopened since September, our numbers should be off the charts bad according to the fearmongerers, and yet our numbers don't look to be much different than previous years. Here is a chart from the article, but I'd still recommend you read the whole article :)

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    Worth noting from your own quote: 22 cases of the new variant in Florida which has been open and with no mask mandates since September, vs 26 cases in California with some of the strictest rules in the country.

    If I was locked down and masked up in California, and saw those numbers for Florida, I'd certainly be scratching my head as to the success rate of lockdowns and masks.....


    I can't understand it either. It also didn't do anyone any favors when they started promoting the idea that masks were for everyone else and not just for the wearer. What a bunch of bullsh*t that was, but the Coronavirus Derangement Syndrome CDS sufferers jumped on it and decided they could put a self-righteous spin on their mask neurosis. (The mask wearers who also have the full face shields really crack me up when they claim it's not their paranoia, it's to protect everyone else ---- like, are you afraid your eyeballs are going to spew coronavirus on someone, or what? LOL!)


    The reason Florida vs California is an interesting study is because California has been one of the strictest states, compared to Florida which has been reopened and without mask mandates since September. Fearmongering would say Florida should be doing horribly and California should be doing great ---- and yet, it's more like the opposite is happening (and people are waking up and noticing.)

    An outsider looking at California versus Florida might think California would be smarter to be more like Florida..... but then Florida has a good rational Governor (DeSantis), and California has an extreme leftwing power-hungry nutjob (Newsom) with ties to Pelosi (who is almost as hateful as Obama.)
     
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    If you don't watch the TV news machine, Florida is doing very damn well, thank you very much.

    Though there are many frightened and well indoctrinated people walking around with masks on, there are many who are not.

    Asking questions of strangers, one discovers that most people are wearing masks ONLY to keep a job, or to keep the wife happy.

    DeSantis has done a fine job!
     
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    Yes he has! If I could, I'd vote for him ten times when he comes up for reelection, but I'm not a Democrat, so I can only vote once ;)
     
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    Never leave your home and always be alone and you'll be safe.
     
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    You think I live my life in fear because I wear a seat belt? Seriously?
     
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    The death rate in 2020 was no higher than it was in 2019, or 2018, or 2017, or 2016... ... ...

    Source: CDC
     
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    Because he doesn't have sufficient knowledge in virology nor immunology, so he can't do any thinking for himself with regard to those subjects. Because of that, he fully believes in the fear mongering lies and manipulations being spoon fed to him by "the experts". See, he chooses to worship "the experts" rather than the Christian God who I choose to worship.

    Between my knowledge of virology and immunology, as well as my faith in the Christian God, I do not live in a constant state of terror. I live my life to serve God in whatever way he is calling me to do so. That includes educating people on forums such as this one about the covid scam.
     
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    No, we are being asked to throw away truth and replace it with lies and manipulation. That is anything BUT Godly behavior... In fact, lies and manipulations are the way of Satan...

    Masks do not stop the spread of viruses (they actually contribute to the spread) and six feet distancing does not stop the spread of viruses either (they are already all over the place in the air that you are breathing).
     
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    Ahhhhhhhh, the old "seat belt" argument... Never heard that one before! ;)

    Seat belts are worn because it is known that they prevent serious injuries and deaths whenever car accidents occur. The wearing of them is even unconstitutionally mandated. I am not in support of forcing people to wear seat belts. It should be one's own choice to do whatever they feel is best for them, and to take whatever risk they wish to take. Of course, that does not free them from the consequences of their choice.

    Mask wearing and social distancing, on the other hand, are not preventative measures. In fact, they aren't even about the virus at all. They are rather about compliance and control over people. They are rather about shifting wealth away from Main Street and into Wall Street. They are rather about the "Great Reset" and global governance.

    Locking one's doors is a known preventative to having one's schiff stolen from them. Masks and social distancing are not preventatives of anything relating to viruses.

    Healthy dietary and exercise habits are known to boost one's immune system and one's overall personal health. Masks and social distancing do not do those things with regard to viruses.

    Regulated ("to make regular") traffic flow is known to prevent automotive and pedestrian accidents. Masks and social distancing do not prevent anything with regard to viruses.

    Taking preventative measures and taking proper care of oneself is not living in fear. Unnecessarily altering one's whole lifestyle due to the existence of a virus that typically presents itself as a mild flu IS living in fear.
     
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    Bingo!

    This alone shows that the covid tyranny (lockdowns, mask mandates, social distancing rules, etc.) have absolutely NOTHING to do with the virus itself and everything to do with shifting wealth from Main Street to Wall Street so that the "proles" are easier controlled (because they'll be indebted to and fully dependent upon the government for their survival). People's actions are MUCH easier controlled that way, you see...

    Notice how WalMart and Amazon are "essential" but Joe Blow's Gymnasium and Suzie Q's Eatery are somehow NOT "essential"?? Hmmmmmmm.........
     
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    No, you live your life in fear because you let the presence of covid completely control every aspect of your life...
     
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    In what way?

    If you think you have a super secret camera on me, I assure you, you have the wrong person. I am not cowered in a corner.

    What great insight into my private life do you have that makes you believe this?
     
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    How much did your back brace, flame resistant driving suit, helmet and back and neck brace costs? Certainly you had a MHRA roll cage, automatic fire suppression system and non-explosive fuel cell installed - or are you suicidal and not done all that? We can be sure you never exceed 10 mph to best avoid hitting and hurting anyone.
     

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