DeSantis tells CPAC to 'put on full armor of God,' says 'shield of faith' will protect them from the

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  1. Daniel Light

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    No - because you would have to assume those counties share of the present California debt. I used to spend a lot of time duck hunting around the Sutter Buttes
    in your area - there was a lot of poverty and crime. Hell, I've lived in Los Angeles, Miami and the Bay Area and the ONLY time I was robbed was when I
    was in the Sutter Buttes.
     
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    It’s how we validate evidence, instead of chasing superstitious behaviors. If it weren’t for evidence and the scientific method people could make up any silly claim they want and people without critical thinking skills would swear it’s true.
     
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    That's a very narrow minded, superficial understanding of the world. I would have expected better from you/
     
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    Perhaps, so you believe religious affiliation — especially western Christianity — will make a rebound? Is this based on historical precedent or just speculation?
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    And they arrogantly presume to think that they argue using logic and reason….
     
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    I hope so but I'm not confident. Western Christianity has become so corrupted
     
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    I think that absolutely plays a huge role in it. Religion has gone from personal worship to a money generating scheme, political weapon and way to attack people you don’t like.
     
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    No. I’m saying that fiscal conservative/social liberal who always vote democrat based on the social instead of Republican for the fiscal deserve every regulation, every woke idea, every big spending budget, every gun restriction, and every tax increase that comes their way. If they decide that being pro abortion or pro secular or excessively pro gay/trans is more important that fiscal sanity, low taxes, gun rights and vote accordingly get exactly everything they deserve.
     
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    Not all social conservative positions require intervention from government but even if it did your preference for government intervention in tax increases, more regulations, woke in our schools, more gun control, more deficit spending is noted.
     
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    I hope not but I'm not optimistic, Western Christianity has become so corrupted by secular culture as to be nothing more than a progressive social club with a cross on the wall. Something Dietrich Bonhoeffer would scorn as an instituion based on "cheap grace." Or what John Wesley feared would happen to his Methodist movement.

    "I am not afraid that the people called Methodists should ever cease to exist either in Europe or America. But I am afraid, lest they should only exist as a dead sect, having the form of religion without the power."

    For the time being Christianity's future lies in Africa and Asia.
     
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    There is no before God because God has always existed and always will. Just because we mortals can’t understand the concept of no beginning of time or ending of it doesn’t mean that what God told us isn’t true.
     
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    Don’t be ridiculous! It is a news report about what a governor of a major state said at a major gathering of people and media. When a news maker says something and reporters report what was said, it is news and it was current when reported and posted.
     
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    Outside of the USA, Canada, and Western Europe, the Christian religion is growing rapidly around the world and a few denominations are actually in almost all of the nations on earth.
     
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    And Mexico, central and South America and the Caribbean…
     
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    How do you know your version is correct and the hundreds of other versions are incorrect?
     
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    Of course they do. That is the differentiator.

    Cute.
     
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    If you have evidence to support this hypothesis, I'd very much like to see it.
     
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    Better than the north East and CA:). You check those numbers? How’s NYC doing? How’s that homeless and poop problem across CA? Rob any trains lately?
     
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    I’ve read a lot of books on how the earth was formed, and how our universe started.
    Apparently you’re still stuck on one book, yet refer to others as narrow minded. Magic is, by its own definition, superficial.
    What desantis said was unbelievably dumb, but did you guys know Mormons believe in magic underwear? Seriously.
     
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    You mean after the vaccine how COVID has basically become an issue for the unvaccinated republicans who keep hampering the country’s recovery?
     
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    It is reasonable to fear pain and suffering but as someone who has experience the loss of my soulmate after 46 years together I can assure that I honestly have no fear of death itself.
     
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    There will be no signs and wonders so that some skeptic might believe. Christianity is a religion based on Grace by Faith alone. Doubting Thomas was the last case of seeing the proof. Jesus told him he saw and believed and blessed will be those who have not seen yet believed. That applies to all believers since Jesus ascension back to Heaven. The skeptic and the secular demanding “proof” through signs and wonders will be met with silence until the second coming which will ne their proof too late to matter for them. Remember that thousands witnessed Jesus raise a man from the dead and the whole country found out about it and yet the skeptics found reasons to doubt even that and He was crucified on the cross within two weeks of that miracle.
     
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    No one. Nothing. He has always existed. There is no beginning for God,
     
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    We call it a reasoned faith.
     
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    Hitler might have been born and raised a believer but he clearly rejected it all and went to a hybrid between atheism and paganism as an adult and leader. Stalin and Mao and their nations as atheist states killed far more than Hitler and the inquisition combined. Then there’s Pol Pot and almost all communist leaders who have resorted to genocides to achieve their aims and to try to eradicate theistic religion.
     

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