Did Trump blow it?

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  1. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    I liked Trump but this got me worried. Trump needs to apologize now and take his licks for it. He needs to be humble and admit he was wrong. Either way, it was an amateur mistake and I'm interested to see how it gets handled.

    PS "Trump" people, you should hit me up for some advice.
     
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    Trump is right. Simply being a POW doesn't make you a "war hero", and McCain has done nothing to merit the title of "war hero".

    He did exactly what was expected of him, and nothing more. He did not go "above and beyond the call of duty". There is no "heroism" in anything McCain did.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To blow it, he would have needed to be a serious candidate.
    Trump is a narcissistic megalomaniac promoting himself for personal profit, so he is doing just fine.
    If you don't believe me, ask him.
     
  4. trucker

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    nope McCain blew it ATTACKED trump and trump is firing back at his bombing jet[video=youtube;43BAAGKnAlc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43BAAGKnAlc[/video] trump knows this hes mcCain not a true hero
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain
     
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    Yeah well like silly homosexuals that "think" they procreate with each other that doesn't necessarily make him a bad person. :hiding:
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hes full of info on mcCain, he knows the true history of the shoot down over hanoi and what McCain mission was on and its wasn't a heros flight, he belongs in that prison for many years for killing all those civilians.
     
  8. TheGreatSatan

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    As far as I'm concerned, he's pro-America and thats good enough for me now days. I don't wanna elect someone that hates me.

    Hillary isn't? Who in government isn't?

    haven't heard people politicians called that before....

    never heard of politicians doin this either?

    lol awesome line. made me hella laugh. Bravo sir.... Bravo :clapping:
     
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    Really? (this ought to be good) Would Trump know a A-4 from a F-4 and what their missions were without looking it up? :roflol:
     
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    It wasn't even Linebacker or Linebacker II, McCain got shot down all the way back in October of 1967.

    It was somewhere around Rolling Thunder timeframe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_of_23_August_1967
     
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    dude, anyone that does what McLame did is a "hero". The "Donald" is fake. No real conservative would ever say such a thing
     
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    Says who?

    You get to be a hero for getting shot down?

    You get to be a hero for taking a few lumps?

    Trump is still right, everything he said is 100% factually accurate.

    No matter how the lefties try to spin it.
     
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    ok i see
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    rolling thunder stills looks carpet bombing like [video=youtube;jTxrq_Erw-k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTxrq_Erw-k[/video]
     
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    I hear ya...
     
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    I will say this, I will never look at Donald Trump in the same way or light. I think as a Senator, McCain's record can be attacked from multiple sides and that is fair game. As a Vietnam Vet I do find Trump's comments very distasteful. I am sure his comments will cost him among the military community.

    As right as I think Trump was about illegal immigration, he is wrong on this. It wouldn't have bothered me on bit if Trump called McCain a senile, nitwit of a Senator and went on blah, blah, blah. He probably would have been right about that, that is if that was what he said. But to attack McCain because his fighter jet was shot down and he survived 6 years in the Hanoi Hilton, to me is beyond the pale.

    Now the NVA treated our POW's very inhumanly. Also because John McCain dad was as admiral and CINCPAC, the NVA offered to release him. McCain told the NVA no to that. Not until those who had been captured before him were released first. I am very disappointed in Trump, he has lost me.
     
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    I don't think this is part of any plan. I really do think he is just that stupid. I think he actually believes what he's saying.

    There is no way he can come back from this. Whatever remote chance he might have had before has evaporated with his stupid "omg POWs are totally not even heroes". Even if he DIDN'T believe it and it was a mistake, the mere fact that something so insanely asѕinine could slip out of his mouth at all is clear evidence he is not competent to hold office.

    I think we'd be better off placing a random 8th grader into office than Trump. I don't mean that metaphorically...I mean it literally.
     
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    Yet Trump goes up in the polls because he has the 'nads to speak the truth. McCain's times has come & gones. The old RINO should leave the stage. He is no Conservative.
     
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    McCain attacked Donald Trump's mental health. What did you expect The Donald to say?

    Okay. I understand and respect your viewpoint.

    It does seem to me though, that this election is important. Maybe we need to dig a little deeper than the traditional platitudes, this time.

    What Mr. Trump said exactly is: "McCain is a war hero because he was captured."

    And that is the truth. There is no other reason McCain could be considered a "war hero".

    That is my viewpoint. When you sign up for the service, you sign up for whatever comes with it. To be a "hero", it means you have to do something above and beyond the call of duty. Otherwise, you're just a "good soldier". IMO.

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    Mm.... are you sure it isn't, "no real establishment Neo-Con bootlicking corporatist conservative would ever say such a thing"?

    After all, it's the RINO's who are interested in PC. The rest of us.... not so much.

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    I understand - but since there's an age requirement, you're doing the next best thing by running Hillary. ;)
     
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    why he trump is more of a anti war guy? mcCain is a scary war hawk... your making to quick of a judgement here, better pack that emotions up and war memorys and give trump a second look i been in the us army and i have a soft spot for mcCain to i think trump war referring to mcCain record as a senator more, i give trump a mulligan on this
     
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    You're welcomed to your view point as I am mine. But if Trump wanted to attack McCain for being a stupid senator, there was lots of room for him to do just that. I really doubt I could put up being a POW of the North Vietnamese for six years. McCain has my respect for that. This is a political race, attack McCain on his politics, not for being shot down and captured. That is just too much for me.
     
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    If Trump was referring to McCain's record as a Senator, then that is what he should have said and that is what he should have attacked.
     
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    Interesting you feel that way about a man who employs people in Mexico and China to make his products. Even more interesting that Trump himself bashes Mexico and China like nobody knows this.
     
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    Apparently McCain was completely correct about Trump's mental health.

    There is no possible defense Trump could make at this point. He actually said he does not consider POWs to be heroes. He may as well have said he doesn't think child molesting as is as bad everyone says...the comment is THAT bad. If Democrats had a secret mind control device they could not have imagined a better way to make Trump sink his own campaign.

    Hillary could not possibly be worse than Trump.
     
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    I agree with Perotista that said disagree with the politics but not the man. POW or not, McCain was the one that sacrificed his life for his country and that in itself is a hero. Not the person that excused himself from the war. This goes beyond McCain with the lack of respect towards a POW in general. What about the soldiers that lost their lives because they didn't do it Rambo style?
     
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