Did Trump or anyone in his campaign collude or attempt to collude?

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Did Trump or campaign staff collude or try to collude?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    57.1%
  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which amount to a big fat nothing, when you put all of them in chronological order. Oh my.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely brilliant logic. Yeah, what would be the point?

    Thanks for that moment of hilarity. I shall treasure it.
     
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    It was in the press only after the election. And the FISA warrant only came out after the election. You have failed to present any evidence thst the Steele dossier was used to influence the election. Now maybe you could claim that Hillary saw the future, knew she was going to lose the election, and so had the Steele dossier done in advance so she could use it to hurt Trump after his election. Now that might be a conspiracy theory worthy of you.

    Want to keep trying or just admit you are confused both about the timeline and of course the meaning of collusion.
     
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  4. Bluesguy

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    Want to quit dodging and answer my question?

    It was used in the press and the FISA court. Where did it cone from and who paid for it?
     
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    Oh hardly want a list of all the officials fired or forced out and that investigation is ongoing including in the Senate.
     
  6. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But strangely you use that argument about who was fired or forced out (not indicted or convicted) as proof positive of a criminal conspiracy, yet with all those trumpettes who have been indicted or convicted are not evidence or to be considered when assessing Trump's misdeeds.

    But I get its impossible to defend trump and attack the "deep state" without looking like a hypocrite spouting diametrically opposed double standards.
     
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    Sorry but you are the one ducking. You have provided no evidence of collusion by either Hillary or her campaign nor have you been able to provide any evidence that info in the Sterl dossier was ever used by the campaign before Trump was elected.

    Who paid for it is irrelevent if you cannot show either collusion or that it was used to influence the campaign. It came out in the press after Trump's election and the FISA court had no influence on the campaign.

    Your claim of collusion is bogus and by now you should know it.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he does.
     
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    Of all those in Trump's orbit, how many faced charges that implicated Trump in anything?

    Answer: One.

    Of all those FBI and DOJ officials fired or forced out, how many were directly involved in the furtherance of the hoax?

    Answer: All of them.


    Can you spot the difference?
     
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  10. Gatewood

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    According to Mueller the answer is "No!" Enjoy.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, its easier to fire a federal employee than to indict a politician. Must have taken you a while to figure that little gem out.
     
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    Well that post has nothing to do with mine.
     
  13. PatriotNews

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    It came out in Yahoo News Michael Isikoff story, and it had been shopped around various news outlets as well who were smart enough not to take the bait. Crooked Hillary herself was trying to drop hints about Trump Russia collusion in all three debates.

     
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    Robert Muller says no.
     
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    Sorry but nobody including yourself has provided any evidence of Hillary or her campsign colluding with Russia. That is a fact!
     
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    Let's see. Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC laundered money through Perkins Coie to Fusion GPS who hired a foreign agent, Christopher Steele who got Russian disinformation from Russian intelligence and oligarchs and then shopped it to the DOJ, FBI, the media and the State Department. Yep, there's your proof. Those are the facts.
     
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    Another person who miraculously knows what is in the Mueller report. Amazing.
     
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    Sorry but perhaps you should look up the definition of collusion. And the Steel dossier wasn't shopped to anyone nor was it used prior to Trump's election to help Hillary's campaign.
     
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    Yes it was. Yahoo news and Michael Isikoff plus another journalist also reported on it. The FISA came in October of 2016, but they were already spying on Trump campaign.
     
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    So actually after the election.
     
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    Barr told us. We all know. You are just going to have to come to terms with that fact.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    No defense needed - no collusion, no Russia, no nothing and no they weren't. Perhaps next time you won't fall for the fake news and jump to conclusions.
     
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    Who paid for the fake Russian dossier?
     
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    Care to revise your statement of fact?
     

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