Direct Primary Care, No Insurance Required for Dr Visits

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Reporting is tied to medicare reimbursement.
    No need when you're not billing insurance
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but you really don't understand the system. Every user is billed the same. If you can pay cash you can get a 25% to 40% discount. IF you are a major insurance company you will get a 75% or greater discount. And if you have neither insurance or can't pay cash you will probably have to pay the entire amount.

    Doubt what I am telling you. Get a hold of someones Medicare billing summary and see what percentage of what is actually billed is paid by the government. Or go to a hospital and talk to the billing department and they will explain it all to you.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you are either on the dole or have never purchased either insurance or your own healthcare.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    There is no such thing as free healthcare. It is always paid for somehow. The search is to find the most cost effective system.
     
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    My limited research makes me think the biggest change is the huge reduction catastrophic care plans available. In many ways, those plans were outlawed because they didnt cover pregnany for single males.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure lots of things are obvious to yourself
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Your search is to find others to do the paying
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All those regulations and requirements add up, and nowhere is this more evident than the medical care field. The doctor has to have a whole workforce of employees and outside companies just to help him meet the requirements of Medicare and the insurance companies, and even then 40 percent of his job is still having to fill out paperwork.

    You can't keep demanding more and more things out of a business without prices going up.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    That's crap. Doctors should serve us and take what we decide they deserve
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Just because you are unable to think intelligently doesn't make your rather stupid personal attacks valid.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully you will come down with a life threatening problem so you can test your theory. The end result should significantly raise the level of discourse on this forum.
     
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    Just a heads up, I have also been referring to it as concierge care, but I recently came across an article from a doctor who said that even in the industry the terms are intermingled but mean different things. Direct primary care is when they don't take any insurance period. Concierge is when they still take insurance but will accept cash outside of the system for people who want to be at the front of the line when it comes to service.

    Its funny how liberals show their true colors on a subject like this. Despite having a model that is emperically and demonstrably more efficient, costs less, provides better customer service and more importantly superior outcomes, they just can't stand that people are providing a service outside of umbrella of government. If it can't be controlled by their masters they won't stand for it.
     
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    Its because the terms are mixed up and not used correctly. I have been doing the same thing for years myself. Conierge doctors still take insurance but also take additional cash from private patients in order to be in the front of the line. That is indeed usually something that is for wealthier people. DCP doctors do not deal with insurance at all and that is directed at everyone else including poorer people.
     
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    Good info. Seems a lot of resources on this use them interchangeably also.
     
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    Exactly, no one expects home owners insurance to pay for new carpeting or a maid to clean your home, your car insurance doesn't cover oil changes or getting air in your tires. Why does everyone expect health insurance to have to cover everything?
    LOL didn't realize that my last two responses were to the same person. :p
     
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    Hardly.

    If there was ever such a search in the US, it would have ended long ago, because the solution is incredibly simple; scrap for-profit healthcare, have the government pay for the lot, and finance it with a tiny little tax increase. The government will only be paying the economic rates, IE not the imaginary ridiculous fantasy rates that are currently dictated by the hospitals' chargemasters, and we won't have silly crap like veterans not being able to afford healthcare, poor people literally being bankrupted by even minor medical issues, and people actually having to carry cards saying not to have them picked up by ambulances because an ambulance picking them up and dropping them off at a hospital not covered by their insurance would instantly bankrupt them.

    But that won't happen, because the real search is for ways for the owners of the hospitals to make more money.
     
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    No the government isn't going to pay for universal healthcare with a tiny little tax increase. That shows no knowledge of the issue at all. Universal healthcare will be expensive. Just not as expensive or as inefficient as the current system.
     

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