Discuss the first two Democratic debates here.

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  1. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    There has been plenty of discussion of the debates scattered across different threads, and many things have been said and asked that need to be clarified. I watched both debates and I will try to answer any sincere question about them that I can. So ask your questions about Medicare For All, taxes, guns, racism, or any other issue and comments that came up in the debates. If I can't answer it I'm sure someone else can.
     
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    Why do Democrats care more about illegal aliens than U.S. citizens?

    Why do Democrats want to decriminalize illegal border crossings?

    Why is this different from wanting open borders?

    Why do Democrats think anything is 'free'?

    Are these candidates the best the Dems can put forth?
     
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    I have no questions except to say this was a far healthier process than we had 4 years ago. This process sharpens our eventual nominee and prepares his campaign and our party for the vetting in the general. I don't like coronations at all.
     
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    No.

    All Democrats know that the Wall will not be paid by Mexico.
     
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    Well, one of those came up in the debate, and one kinda sorta "came up" if we can draw a strained and confused conclusion about some comments that were made.

    The one that came up was decriminalizing border crossings. And while the reasons for decriminalization were not given, I'd say it's needed until we straighten out the wrongs being done. People are allowed to come looking for asylum, but many of them are being labeled "illegal immigrants" even though the Constitution provides for them and we have always listened to their reasons for wanting asylum and investigated it so as to determine who is truly seeking and in need of asylum, and who is just trying to become an American. So labeling them "illegal immigrants" with no reason for doing so is not only immoral in its callous disregard of human rights, but is also unconstitutional.

    The other one which I call a "strained and confused conclusion about some comments that were made", is "why do Democrats think anything is free?"

    This is really quite an interesting question, considering that Republicans and the right in general typically like to make things personal, asserting such things as "if I could start a business and make a good income anybody can", or "if you think taxes should be raised to pay for welfare, you should be giving more taxes to the IRS for it or you're a hypocrite". In this case the right ignores the fact that for some individuals, some things are, indeed, free! For a person benefiting from SNAP, there are free foods waiting for him/her. For a person with no money, medical services in the ER are free. But someone, somewhere, helps to pay for these things of course, and that is what Democrats mean. Acting unable to figure this out is an game, an act, a pretense by the right that only serves to invent an opportunity, however lame, to criticize Democrats, but all they really do is to expose their own faked lame "confusion". We all know that you know the truth about it.

    The remaining 3 questions are contrived nonsense that also exposes things about he who asks.
     
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    :roflol: Have you even read the Constitution? Apparently not. The asylum laws come from the Geneva Convention. If you knew anything about it, then you'd understand that those seeking asylum have to do so in the first safe country they enter....in the case of those coming from central America, the first country is usually Mexico.

    I didn't call them "illegal immigrants", I called them "illegal aliens" which is what they are according to the Constitution. Article 4 Section 4.
     
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    Article 4 Section 4
    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
     

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