Disney Executive Producer Admits to ‘Gay Agenda,’ ‘Adding Queerness’ Wherever She Could

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because many people deem any discussion of homosexuality in schools not age appropriate thus opening up the school up to litigation.

    This has been explained that this is the only issue many of us have. That you keep acting like it is so confusing makes me believe this argument is not being made in good faith.
     
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    Did you just post that "gay people cannot have kids in the natural way so they wish to claim others and raise them as they see fit"?

    Can you please expound on that statement?

    P.S. It's a day early for April Fools jokes.
     
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    You're trying to move the goalposts with this post. Your original post said this:
    What evidence do you have that there are multiple judges in the state of Florida that will deem any discussion / materials related to homosexuality not age appropriate in grade 12? Because it sounds like you don't have evidence of that particular claim.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there have been cases of judges banning some particularly-graphic materials, but that's a far cry from banning "any discussion or materials including anything related to homosexuality". Let's try this: what's the most benign material related to homosexuality that a judge in Florida has deemed age-inappropriate for 12th graders?
     
  4. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like you would prefer more laws to outlaw murder. Is that it? Not sure what it has to do with gun control. I am pro-2A, just FYI.

    No, you don't have any idea, you just repeat what politicians tell you.
     
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    HurricaneDitka Well-Known Member

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    There might be some parents out there that deem "any" discussion of homosexuality in schools age-inappropriate (I haven't seen, and you haven't provided evidence of it, but I'm open to the possibility that such a person might exist). If a few such parents pursue litigation against a school, they're going to lose in court if the bring frivolous claims about benign mentions of one's "spouse" in 12th grade, to refer back to a previously-offered example. This "only issue" you have with this is not a serious concern.
     
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    I'm not repeating any claim from a politician that I'm aware of. My contention is that some teachers are sexual predators and some teachers use their position in classrooms to push for / advocate / encourage / draw attention to LGBT lifestyles. I purposefully chose the word "some" because I don't have a good estimate of how widespread or common it is and am not making any claim on the frequency. Your previous post seemed to contend that it was a "few isolated instances", and if that's true, I'm puzzled by your concern over this bill. If you're right, it's only going to affect a few isolated instances, right?
     
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    Was no joke and that is what teaching kids this nonsense is all about
     
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    Better late than never!
     
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    I have no problem with the requirement of explanation. Kids ask questions - its normal and healthy. The answer is what will define their thoughts for many years. I hope, for their sakes and the sake of our society, the answer to these questions are handled with care.
     
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    If that is true, and proven, would it make sense to arrest them? Answer: Teachers who are sexual predators are arrested and thrown to prison. When was the last time I heard of a 3rd grade teacher being a predator......hmmm.....like....never. That's right, not once in my life have I heard of it. There has been cases when a teacher has sex with a teenage student (usually female teacher + male student), and when that happens, the whole nation talks about it. But 3rd grade....never heard of it.

    My concern is the fact that we create bills just for the sake of creating them, and pretending its to "put parents in charge". They also pretend its a widespread problem when its practically never heard of. Parents have always been in charge, and now they also pretend they have a new right to sue teachers and schools, when they always had that right. I don't like being lied to, I don't like to see politicians use their office to play people against groups of people (like teachers in this case being falsely portrayed as sexual predators).

    You have been played by populist politicians, and you don't even see it.
     
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  11. MJ Davies

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    I understand that's your position. I'm unclear on how/why you think that. You think teaching children that non-heterosexual people exist is for the purpose of non-heterosexual people to <obtain these children in some way> to <some agenda>?

    I'm not understanding the steps between Point A and Point B.
     
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    The whole point of "grooming" behaviors is that, at least at the early stages, they are activities that child molesters can pass off as benign. They're not, in and of themselves, criminal acts. Here's a description from RAINN (highlights added by me):

    Grooming: Know the Warning Signs | RAINN

    If a second grade teacher wants to discuss sexual orientation or gender identity with little kids, that looks a lot like grooming. When they're deliberately evasive with parents of those kids about it, it looks even more like grooming.
     
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    What does this have to do with Disney?
     
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    No one is gteaching such an tricial fact. No one needs to be taught such a trivial fact
     
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    Pro_Line_FL and I were having a discussion about teachers. You might understand that sometimes as a conversation flows, sidebars and tangents, related to but not directly about the original topic, can emerge. That happened here.
     
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    Hold on.

    One minute your position is this is all about non-heterosexual people obtaining kids because they can't have them in the natural way and now it's trivial?
     
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    I can't help that you've been oblivious to it in the past, but here are several examples:

    This one even happened in Florida:

    After Blaming Child Sexual Abuse Victims, Florida School District to Pay $3.6 Million in Settlement (dailydot.com)

    Also: Teacher Arrested For Alleged Sexual Assault Of 3rd Grader – CBS San Francisco (cbslocal.com)

    And: Wilbert Sequerios accused of sexually abusing children when he taught 3rd grade at Houston's Northline Elementary School - ABC13 Houston
     
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    There's nothing "false" about the portrayal of the third-grade teachers as sexual predators in the examples above.
     
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    Thank you. Ok, so there was such crime 17 years ago, and existing laws were used to bring the criminal to justice. And we needed a new laws because..........? Is it because you think if there are 2 laws for the same thing, then a crime surely cannot ever happen?

    Thanks for proving my point. You're the best!
     
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    It wasn't a one-off thing 17 years ago. Here's one in Connecticut from a couple of years ago:

    Former Plymouth elementary school teacher arrested for alleged inappropriate conduct with students (wtnh.com)



    Here's one in Wisconsin that just came to light last month:

    New sex assault charges filed against ex-Green Bay teacher (wbay.com)
     
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    One case in Florida and it was 17 yrs ago, AND the criminal was arrested (as were the others in other States).

    And we needed a new laws because..........? Is it because you think if there are 2 laws for the same thing, then a crime surely cannot ever happen?

    Thanks for proving my point. You're the best!

    No further comments. If you like new /duplicate laws for the sake of having new laws, then so be it.

    This law will prevent people from having porn on their phone....? Awesome! Unfortunately there is already a law against it, but hey, - the more the better. Right? Maybe they'll whip out some more next year (more likely in 2024, because thats an election year too)
     
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    This is moving the goalposts. Less than an hour ago you wrote that you had "never" and "not once in [your] life" heard of a 3rd grade teacher being a predator:
    That post wasn't confined to just Florida.

    But even if you did want to absurdly limit the discussion just to third grade teachers, and just in Florida, there's still the 2020 incident of a 3rd-grade teacher in Florida with child pornography on his phone.
     
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    @Pro_Line_FL , just earlier this year, Hector Manley, who taught first and second grade in Florida, was convicted of 20 counts of molesting students under the age of 12.

    Hector Manley, ex-Collier County teacher, found guilty in child sexual abuse case (naplesnews.com)
     

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