Disney exposed: Leaked videos show officials pushing LGBT agenda, saying DeSantis wants to 'erase'

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong. It is literately in line 21-22 of the bill
     
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    I don't think you understand how legislation works. Lines 21-22 (and really all of lines 1-57) are just a long title of the bill. They're not going to make it into "law". They're not going to be part of the statutes of the state of Florida. Lines 97-101 will be though. They're going to be added to subsection ( 8 ) of section 1001.42, Florida Statutes. And those lines say:

    That is the legal terminology that will be in consideration in future cases when parents bring lawsuits for violating FS 1001.42( 8 ). The long title of the bill is not, and will not, be part of the Florida Statutes.
     
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    Why the **** is a Florida bill somehow involve Disney?

    Florida is being governed by the people, for the people. Disney execs in California need not concern themselves into how another State wishes to govern it's society.

    What a **** show.
     
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    Parents have a say in what guides the curriculum taught to their kids I should think. And if they deem something inappropriate, then it should be removed. Parents absolutely should have a say over their children's education.
     
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    Parents, at least initially. If they feel some age-inappropriate classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity has occurred, they can lodge a complaint with the principal. If the principal does not resolve the issue to the parents' satisfaction, then the parent can pursue remedies in court, and the ultimate decision will be rendered by a judge.

    It probably depends on the novel a bit. Is the novel describing gay sex in graphic, pornographic-like detail? Probably not age-appropriate for classroom instruction in a public school, even for high-school students. Is it a passing reference to someone having two dads, or something similarly benign? Probably not a problem then. At least, that's my perspective. But as noted above, the decision-makers are parents, then principals, (with an optional stopover at the state board of education,) then Florida judges. Neither you nor I are in that chain, so we're free to opine on it, but our opinions aren't going to govern what happens in Florida classrooms.
     
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    So if a few parents believe all religious characters and history should be removed, you think the schools should abide by that?

    What about all heterosexual themes? Should schools ban pretty much all of human history and virtually all pieces of literature?
     
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    So far as I know and I'm no expert on this but I think schools have a set of standards and guidelines that students need to be at at various grades. How they get there as well as anything extra that is adopted into the curriculum is absolutely up to the parents to decide
     
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    The Florida bill even makes reference to them:
     
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    You didn’t answer the question.
     
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    Exactly! That’s the bottom line here. If parents think it inappropriate for their child’s age, then they should file a lawsuit of the school or its board disregard parental input
     
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    So the description of the bill is not what the law is ?
     
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    Since when is a written description of a bill or law the actual written text of a law written into the legal code?
     
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    Yes, that's exactly what I'm telling you. The long title / "description" of the law says "prohibiting classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in certain grade levels ...", but the actual text of the law, which will be incorporated into Florida statutes in July, says "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 ..." and it'll be the text that governs Floridians going forward, not the long title from the bill.
     
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    The description is the intent of the law. FFS, you cant be that obtuse
     
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    INSTRUCTION happens how ? wait for it…Thru DISCUSSION !!!!!!!

     
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    Do you grasp that "classroom instruction" is a narrower subset of the conversations that happen in schools than all "discussion"?
     
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    Wonder how much revenue Disney creates for Florida.

    If they told the State they were closing down operations permanently because of Ron Desantis, how long do you think he would last in Florida?

    Edit: 75.2 Billion in economic benefit and 5.8 Billion in sales tax revenue
     
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    They are a big cash cow for Florida and also biggest private sector employer.

    This is not the fist time DeSantis uses the power of his office to attack private business, because another massive employer, the cruise lines, almost left the State because of his nonsense.

    I tell ya, - no sheep is safe when DeSantis is around.
     
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    Keep swimming….
     
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    And where exactly would they go instead? Give up zero state income tax and other economic advantages of Florida or another warm red state and be as deviant and immoral as California or New York or Illinois and pay their taxes and high cost of living? It’s time to tell big corporations like Disney to choose all Ca or all Fla. if they can’t deal with the social policies of a place with great economic policies. No ones leaving Florida.
     
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    You're thinking like the Democrats who covered for Mega Dem Donor Weinstein for 40 years while he raped young Leftwing Starlets. FL is not going to allow their children to be groomed simply because the groomer is a big taxpayer.

    DeSantis Responds To Disney's Groomer War Against Children: DeSantis Suggests Ending Disney's Special Self-Governing Status.

    Back in 1967 when Disney was just interested in good clean family entertainment rather than Left Wing Sexual Grooming of young children, the "Florida legislature passed the Reedy Creek Improvement Act, which gave the Walt Disney Company a special carve-out, making it a self-governing enclave."
    Reasonable oversight is certainly reasonable.
    Quite fitting.

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    Very measured "Ron DeSantis hasn’t yet given the plan his full endorsement, but he’s sending a clear message to Disney to stick to making kids smile and entertaining families—and stay the hell out of politics."
    Yes, the Constitution is very big on Equal Treatment for All.

    "the company has been put on notice that there are limits to DeSantis’s patience with their woke advocacy, and if they’re not careful, Disney customers and fans are going to be taking their business elsewhere."

    Yes. Florida's parents, children and voters are tired of Disney's lying and weird woke propaganda, indoctrination and naked advocacy.
     
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    Great post. I love that the Governor is doubling down on Disney over their actions on this issue.
     
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    49 states would pave the way with no taxes for a company like Disney, the largest single site employer in the world.
     
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    Mandating injections of poisonous serums is an authoritarian mindset. So is supporting those mandates.

    Pushing this bizarre gender matter is another example of authoritarian mindset.

    DeSantis is a good leader. I hope the state will revoke any and all privileges granted to Disney in Florida. If I owned stock in that sorry company I would sell it.
     
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    The only people I ever hear talking about it are pseudo-conservative populist politicians like DeSantis.

    That might happen, and I am sure Disney will find a new home in a more business friendly State.
     
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