Disneys New 'Star Wars VII' Is War Propaganda

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  1. Monster Zero

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    Don't try to give the members of POLITICAL FORUM a snow job with your lies ...

    There was an obvious U.S./ Russia parallel in in Star Trek IV 'Undiscovered Country' ...

    The mass media in league with the Democrat Party, Obama -Hillary, reignited war with Russia by

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    A. Installing the dictator / invading Ukraine by the CIA and Blackwater killing 50,000 people

    B. FAKE NEWS by mass media RE: Russia fixing the 2016 Election against the Clintons

    C. Wars are always based on lies.

    D. War is a Racket.

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    I didn't lie, but once again you are proving yourself to be too young and immature in which to have an intelligent conversation.

    Go back to your comic books and Star Trek toy collection, kid.

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    Was just flicking the tv channels ... JJ ABRAHAM directed last nites "Person of Interest"

    (something Max Rockatansky wishes he were) episode and -
    scintillating title for a tv show

    by the way JJ - NOT - and ABRAHAM proves he has ZERO capability for creating a

    theatrical atmosphere, cannot get a convincing portrayal out of his actors/ actresses, and

    has no knack for storytelling.


    Like Russel T. Davies, producer of new Doctor Who, JJ ABRAHAM was commissioned by

    the corporate state (i.e. the Establishment) to destroy Star Wars intentionally in Last Jedi.









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    Conspiracies aside - like my corporate America 'Killed the Hero' on purpose plot -

    Like “Twin Peaks: The Return” it's sort of a forgone conclusion these days with Gothic culture / Fantasy and Sci-Fi revivals, not just the pointless pandering, the formulaic pretense and the overly darkened screen hues. It has become such unblemished, tacky, predictable gimcrackery, that even Lynch can't conjure up a worthwhile surprise.

    I knew i was in trouble when Jim Belushi appeared. But the thing that bothers me most is the fact that most Hollywood now takes it's audience for granted. They espouse and keep posing as lofty artistry (cloaked with pointless gimmicks) supposedly too much over our heads and "too deep" and that sells and purports itself to be "crafty","visionary" and/or original - but in the end is just David Lynch doing Lost Highway again driving around in circles in the dark (and sucking) the truly edgy elements are too few -

    The performance by the Log Lady in contrast with agent Cooper - was very similar to the feeling I got watching the X-Files reboot.

    The Log Lady seemed to care about the script and her performance, whereas agent Cooper did not. After the first 2 (season 1) episodes that grabbed your attention, episodes 3 and 4 were little more than advertisements for a Las Vegas vacation.

    In the same way, X-Files agent Mulder looked tired of the whole scene, whereas The Lone Gunmans performance was genuine, fired up, and convincing.

    I wanted Robert Patrick to appear and slap David Duchovny (who clearly didn't seem like he wanted to be there) in the back of the head, and say, "snap out of it."


    Now, of course we're gonna get all the damage control reviews from corporate media mouthpieces about Star Wars: Last Jedi, but don't bother - we all saw what JJ Abrahams did to Star Trek - and he is exec producer on this Disney garbage.

    Anyhow - after reading three somewhat disparaging online reviews from obvious David Lynch cult worshippers which had brutal, cynical summations of Twin Peaks surreal, supernatural, past and the present revivals - and the "legend" Lynch stylistic story directions, I had it reading them with their half-hearted *'go see it anyway'* pop culture (psych 101) damage control reviews ...

    cha-ching ...

    5 paragraph reviews - describing STAR WARS, and TWIN PEAKS mediocrity at best -

    BUT *'go see it anyway'* ???

    NOT!

    SAVE YOUR PSYCHE,YOUR SOUL, YOUR ENERGY AND YOUR $$$

    They typify many blog writers who go half arsed when like we've heard when the new Disney Star Wars or Doctor Who re-hash trashed and dashed our hopes.


    Even Mark Hamil is on record objecting to the Last Jedi scriptwriters treatment of the Skywalker character.


    Go figure.



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    WHY THE POWER ELITE KILLED OFF CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO:

    The alien who came to earth in a Time Machine phone booth who

    fought injustice since 1963


    (and appeared on TV screens the same week JFK died ...


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    To give SCI-FI fans of Doctor Who and readers of Epic and some idea of how THE POWER ELITE and Corporate Conglomerates exert CENSORSHIP AND CONTROL over the social and poitical messages put forth in Heroic Fantasy series, you can see more evidence of this than by simply reading Michael Moorcocks essays 'Starship Stormtroopers' and 'Epic Pooh,' as I refferred to before in previous pages.

    Doctor Who had built a long respectable reputation for a SCI-FI Epic TV series that tackled many serious threats to modern 20th century society - nuclear wars, meltdowns, accidents, poverty, homelessness, starvation, dictatorships, warmongering megalomaniac bureaucrats, mind controlling mass producing of drugs, poisoned environmets, and pollution as well as 'future shock' hypothetical scenarios far ahead of their time, and far more effectively than Twilight Zone, Star Trek, Star Wars, Outer Limits or Hollywood EVER did.


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    But when Sixth Doctor Colin Baker took over the lead role on BBCs classic Doctor Who saga in 1984 - the writers tackled such issues as torture on television as a tool to mollify the masses, (Vengeance On Varos), starvation and culling populations to keep social order (The Mysterious Planet), according to some accounts the BBC retaliated ...

    "a copy of “The Mysterious Planet” was sent to Jonathan Powell for his consideration, as was routine. Much to the production team's dismay, however, Powell's response on February 24th was scathing. In an unusually detailed commentary, he took issue with several aspects of “The Mysterious Planet”, including the slow reveal of the trial scenario, the lack of clarity as to the nature of the crisis on Ravolox, and the extent of the Doctor's involvement in its resolution. Most frustratingly for Nathan-Turner, Powell seemed to contradict Grade's edict that humour feature more prominently ..."

    Michael Grade simply despised the show, and was wanting to kill it off. He had already cancelled it, and was shocked with the response. The "low ratings" argument is a myth. Grade hated Doctor Who and Colin Baker period. Anything else is a smokescreen eg. "Violence", "low ratings", "Close Encounters" etc.

    The creation of a new BBC soap opera called 'Eastenders'. The only way to make this financially possible was to postpone all BBC Drama programmes that were set to enter production in the next six months. Among these was the originally-planned Season 23 of Doctor Who(in fact filming on "The Nightmare fair" was due to start in only ten days, before Grade was his decision known). This was greeted with overwhelmingly negative responses. Doctor Who's postponement was Front Page Headline News. The BBC Board of Governors even called Grade in to defend himself. In September 1986 the new Season 23 finally aired(down to 14 25 minute episodes due to the money required to fund Eastenders and Daytime TV). It was met with a mixed reaction, and most people blamed Michael Grade. Again, Grade had to defend himself to the BBC Board of Governors.


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    Colin Baker above , the last good Doctor Who

    All the excuses BBC controller gave for firing Colin Baker turned out to be HUGE LIES:

    Michael Grade was Controller of BBC1. In early 1985 he took the decision to move forward by over a year both the debut of daytime television on BBC1, as well as the creation of a new BBC soap opera called 'Eastenders'. The only way to make this financially possible was to postpone all BBC Drama programmes that were set to enter production in the next six months. Among these was the originally-planned Season 23 of Doctor Who(in fact filming on "The Nightmare fair" was due to start in only ten days, before Grade was his decision known). This was greeted with overwhelmingly negative responses. Doctor Who's postponement was Front Page Headline News. The BBC Board of Governors even called Grade in to defend himself. In September 1986 the new Season 23 finally aired(down to 14 25 minute episodes due to the money required to fund Eastenders and Daytime TV). It was met with a mixed reaction, and most people blamed Michael Grade. Again, Grade had to defend himself to the BBC Board of Governors. At the same time, Grade was dating Liza Goddard. Goddard was Colin Baker's ex-wife. The pair had had an acrimonious divorce, with most people taking Colin Baker's side. Grade hit upon a solution to his problem, as well as a way of pleasing his girlfriend...make Colin Baker a scapegoat. Grade blamed Doctor Who's problems(falsely claiming declining ratings) entirely on Baker. He publically apologised for postponing the show, claiming he was wrong to blame Doctor Who as a whole, when it was all down to the actor playing the Doctor being "rubbish". In this way the fans got an apology for the postponement, Grade's girlfriend was pleased, and Grade himself was seen to be making amends for something he had never even thought about when he made the decision to bring forward Daytime Television and Eastenders! Producer John Nathan fought to keep Colin Baker as the Doctor, but Grade was insistent that Baker MUST be fired.


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    In Doctor Who Magazine #338 Gary Downie(the Production Manager in 1985) stated: There's a history between Michael Grade and Colin. Liza Goddard was Colin's wife. And she was Michael Grade's best friend. The divorce was acrimonious and she moved into Michael Grade's house while she was getting over the divorce. And I'll say no more. Michael Grade was determined. He did not want Colin working for the BBC.


    "The exact details vary depending on who tells the story, but ultimately, BBC Controller Michael Grade ordered the producers to fire Colin Baker because ratings were down, complaints were up, polls showed him to be unpopular in the role, etc."

    "Ratings were much higher than under Mccoy, and actually higher than Hartnell or Troughton(when there were fewer channels). The "violence" argument is also bollocks, as at the same time BBC Childrens' Television was making shows that were at least as violent(eg. Oliver Twist). And what about the excessive Mccoy-era violence? And what polls? Using how many people? And there have always been complaints about Doctor Who, with the Tom Baker-era getting the highest concentration of complaints."

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    KiLLING THE MESSAGE OF THE GREATEST SCI-FI SHOW
    AND HIRING A PROFESSIONAL CLOWN TO KILL OFF THE
    DOCTOR WHO FANBASE WITH IDIOTIC, MEANINGLESS PLOTS ...


    In the case of BBCs DOCTOR WHO brought in THE POWER ELITE in the form of Michael Grade who hired an unknown nite-club clown, and pantomime improv actor Sylvester McCoy as Michael Grade was Controller of BBC1 steadily dumbed down all programs:

    "It was announced in February 1985 that the next series of Doctor Who, scheduled to run from January 1986, would be postponed as Grade had decided that the programme's budget would be better spent on other drama productions.[24] What became an 18-month hiatus for Doctor Who (the series did not resume until September 1986) prompted a strong reaction from viewers"

    "He phased out some of its more high-brow programming, for which he was accused of "dumbing down"; Grade retorted that in the same week that he moved to Channel 4, it had shown a repeat of the 1984 adaptation of The Far Pavilions, featuring American actress Amy Irving "blacked up" as an Indian princess. During this period, he was also attacked by the conservative press: Daily Mail columnist Paul Johnson dubbed him Britain's "pornographer-in-chief".



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Grade



     
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    Nice costume on the little brunette. I've never watched the show, but maybe I'll start. ;)

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    It's very difficult to find a movie that does not give praise and glory to war, or crime.
     
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    hillarious outake ...




    And speaking of SCI-FI and Fantasy adventures being turned into Government propaganda -

    how bad does the newer 2005 Doctor Who suck with awful SJW messages ? [​IMG]

    ("hey look how I'm cool, I put homosexual characters")


    Now - w/ the new doctor to be a woman, and the whole #metoo bit, it's going to be an even more pretentious - if that's possible -DOCTOR WHO PR DISASTER, and politicized as well.

    Doo ya see Intentional 'divide and conquer' between the sexes for the benefit of the POWER ELITES to exploit the masses, would you say ?




    Or is it just more fodder for the narcissistic media types Meryl Streep / Katy Perry, Hillary Clinton booster club ... her latest confession, "Dustin Hoffman slapped me too hard in the 1970's" filming Kramer vs. Kramer ?

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    ( she actually said that in reference to comparing herself to a rape/ molestation victim - let me tell ya b--ch there's no comparison) :disbelief:

    http://deadline.com/2018/01/meryl-s...kramer-slap-overstepping-the-post-1202235246/


    Doctor Who SJW nonsense 'empower women' another example of 'dumbing down' SCI-FI ... what's next ... since the Master and the Doctor ALREADY both regenerated into women (seriously) that means K-9 will become a toaster-oven, and then the villians are bi-sexual Cyber-fellas ? :couple_inlove:



    the awful new DOCTOR WHO was deliberately wrecked from the top of the BBC ... stick to the classic DOCTOR WHO series from (1963-1986).




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    The history of the world is primarily about monarchs, Caesars (czars), politicians, and generals with their military fighting forces who participated in the subduing, if not the genocide, of a foreign society for spoils and profits for their own society and personal political aggrandizement -- or who lost in their attempt to do so.

    It always will be so while homo sapiens still exist. That's why we memorized all those dates and names in history classes -- to see the continuity of it.
     
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    Are you on about Reagan again ?:mrgreen:

    Eh, Reagan was a dummy.

    A puppet President while in office.


    A rat on so called 'Hollywood commies' :psychoitc:


    F__k that scumbag, dips__t.

    Document: 1985 Mercury News article, ‘Reagan acted as informant for FBI’


    "By Scott Herhold

    As a budding politician in Hollywood’s acting community after World War II, Ronald Reagan served as a confidential informant for the FBI, according to records released by the bureau.

    The FBI documents, obtained by the Mercury News in a freedom- of-information request, show that Reagan — identified as “T-10” — kept agents informed about pro-Communist influences in the Screen Actors Guild and other Hollywood organizations."


    https://www.mercurynews.com/2010/11...ws-article-reagan-acted-as-informant-for-fbi/





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    Here's Mark Hamill's Biggest Issue with 'The Last Jedi':
    The "Star Wars" star says the latest version of his character is "not my Luke Skywalker."


    Here's Mark Hamill's Biggest Issue with 'The Last Jedi': 'I Still Haven't Accepted It Completely' | toofab.com

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    Try looking at the issue from the stand point of media ownership

    driving the content of the messages being sent to the public.




    Time/Warner - CNN run by CIA government connections.

    NBC - owned by war profiteer General Electric

    Disney/ABC - known to have CIA connections

    CBS - exposed CIA links by Bob Woodward and other authors

    Fox News - funded by government connected Heritage Foundation




    Media Mind Control

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    So - you don't think those Marvel super hero movies are propaganda?



    Did you know this little tidbit ...


    He Made Army Propaganda With Stan Lee And Chuck Jones

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    "When World War II came, Seuss made his way into the army—not with a gun, but with a pen. He soon found himself working side-by-side with Marvel’s Stan Lee, sketching up pamphlets that warned soldiers about the dangers of catching venereal diseases abroad.

    Seuss also worked with Chuck Jones, the director behind Looney Tunes,. He was a part of a team making propaganda videos for soldiers. Their most famous was the “Private Snafu” series, named for the phrase “Situation Normal:All F—ed Up.

    ”He made political cartoons as well, pushing people buying war bonds to “Slap a Jap’s” smile off his face. A lot of these cartoons voiced his support for Japanese internment camps. Seuss was passionate about it. “If we want to win, we’ve got to kill the Japs,” Seuss wrote. “We can get palsy-walsy afterward with those that are left.”

    When the war ended, though, he visited to Hiroshima and changed his tune. After, he wrote, Horton Hears a Who, dedicating it to a man in Kyoto.


    https://listverse.com/2016/10/13/10-family-unfriendly-facts-from-the-life-of-dr-seuss/

    Dr. Seuss Was a Philandering Bigot
    Jamie Lauren Keiles
    Aug 12 2015

    This sort of baffling fluctuation--from progressive steward of childhood imagination to conventional agent of American supremacy--is a common thread that winds through Seuss/Geisel's career. His large portfolio of published political cartoons points to a man who knew how to harness the power of symbols and metaphor, but who had little by way of a coherent or consistent adult ideology to express. Sometimes he seems hateful, while at other time he seems uncritical or just confused. In one cartoon, Dr. Seuss defines racial harmony as the utilization of black labor for the war effort, while in another he depicts 25 offensively caricatured black men standing beneath a sign that reads TAKE HOME A HIGH-GRADE ****** FOR YOUR WOODPILE!

    During the war, Dr. Seuss was an open advocate for Japanese internment, and he frequently published cartoons featuring Asian Americans as buck-toothed and slanty-eyed threats to American freedom. Later, as an apology, he would dedicate Horton Hears a Who to Mitsugi Nakamura, a university professor and "great friend" he met on a post-war trip to Kyoto. During this six-week visit, Seuss collected Japanese children's drawings of the American occupation for Life magazine, but was ultimately dissatisfied with the way the collection was presented in print. "They raped the article," Dr. Seuss explained, citing the pro-Chinese bias of editor Henry Luce. It was not until 1978 that Geisel would agree to allow a throwaway joke about a "Chinaman" to be rephrased as "Chinese boy" in the text of Mulberry Street. The illustration, featuring a caricature of an Asian man with a long braid and conical hat eating rice with chopsticks, remains intact.

    Theodor Geisel was as sloppy in his personal affairs as he was with his politics. He began dating his second wife Audrey while he was still married to his first wife Helen. At that point in their marriage, Helen was partially paralyzed and terminally sick with cancer. More than cancer, however, she was sick with the knowledge of her husband's affair, and as a result committed suicide with a barbiturate overdose in 1967. In her suicide note, she wrote that Geisel could "say [she] was overworked and overwrought" so that his "reputation with [his] friends and fans will not be harmed." (A family member called Helen's suicide "her last and greatest gift to him.") Dr. Seuss's mistress, 18 years his junior, promptly divorced her husband, and the recent widower was remarried within the year. The newlyweds sent the two children from Audrey's previous marriage to boarding school. Of children, Dr. Seuss was known to say, "You have 'em and I'll entertain 'em."


    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/kb49dy/dr-seuss-was-a-philandering-bigot
     
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    Maybe he shouldn't have sold his character for money.
     
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    Maybe Hollywood should try to make programs without trying to brainwash people, broadcast political propaganda, or dumb down America with base instincts: sex, fear, guns, killing, alcoholism and dope.



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    What's stopping you from investing millions of dollars to make your own movies? It's a free country. That's given that you are living in the US.
     
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    Tell it to James Cameron, and the Environmentalist dorks who made Avatar.

    ( like we care what happens to a bunch of smurfs in the Rainforest ) :razz:




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    It was a cartoon. Those Smurfs weren't real.

    BTW, have you invested tens of thousands of dollars in making your own movies yet?
     
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    The 1970s version of West World didn't really have a political message.

    It was just a fun adventure movie with the great suspense, great acting from Richard Benjamin and Yul Brennner.

    If it did have a message I think it was man cannot trust machines to do all the work of humans ...

    For example - Amazon Dot spyware or Google self-driving cars ...
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    Alexa records, sends message without family knowing

    "SEATTLE — An “unlikely” string of events prompted Amazon’s Echo personal assistant device to record a Portland, Oregon, family’s private conversation and then send the recording to an acquaintance in Seattle, the company said Thursday."


    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/...records-sends-message-without-family-knowing/





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    WAR IS A LIE WE DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYMORE

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    Disney's Star Wars Part 8 - Last Jedi ( ugh )


    Never have I seen so many implausible plot gimmicks crammed into one movie.


    Absolutely dreadful.
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    Television does not even involve the pretense of humanism or humanity anymore.​

    It is all contrived social manipulation.
    .......................................................​

    1. The News Anchors are actors.​

    2. Hollywood actors in Televsion and Film are Establishment or Government Propgandists.​

    3. The News and the Televison are in capable of cultivating a genuine feeling of emotion.​

    4. Everything on Cable Television or most programs are calculated, social, contrivances.​

    5. Televsion HD Noise, Fear, loud bangs, flashes, booming guns, bombs, screams, death scenes.​

    6. Even when Luke Skywalker finally appears in Last Jedi, he is overshadowed by emotion plot manipulations,too far fetched, far too many unbelievable gimmicks, endless cheapened CGI effects HD Noises, blinding flashes, over acting and pointless overdramatizing by writers, co-stars.


    7. The total lack of Humanism is new media rendered Television obsolete: having no intrinsic
    value in and of itself. Suffocated by falsehoods, pop psychology, cynicism, and cruelty.



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    New 'Star Wars' Clip Reminds Us of the First Order's Nazi Comparisons

    "The split second shot in the new 'Force Awakens' TV spot looks straight out of WWII history books."

    https://www.inverse.com/article/844...inds-us-of-the-first-order-s-nazi-comparisons
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    Well said.... and I do agree!

    Darth Vader = Azazel = Zeus???

    "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD

    to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness

    to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10)
     
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