Do we have another Trump Tower equivalent in the White House now?

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  1. MolonLabe2009

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    Do you know what is revealing? This...
    Just more made up crap from the very desperate left.
     
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    But is it as bad as using bogus FISA warrants to spy on your opponents campaign?
     
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    Probably came from the Ukrainians.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Asking a foreign leader to investigate a crooked American and his father's blackmail on said foreign government is not "meddling with an election". If the crime happened, it should be uncovered. NOTHING Trump did here was wrong. It appears, EVERYTHING the Bidens did here was wrong.

    Biden threatened to hold up $1 BILLION if the Ukraine didn't fire a prosecutor looking into his son and the company he worked for. That is the real issue.
     
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    We may need to ask Obama what he told Biden to do.
    Whatca think?
     
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    That would be fair. I wonder how many Leftists want that transparency?
     
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    What happens if the whistleblower and the Inspector General aren't looking at the Ukraine connection, but something else entirely. Possible? Yes, because nobody seems to have hard evidence that is the case. The thing that I find most intriguing is the revelation that the situation is a threat to national security, it involves multiple incidents, and it is ongoing. That's chilling.

    Trump and GOP assertions that the whistleblower is a partisan hack and against Trump is laughable. Do they know who this person is? No. Do they know what he/she has? No. Nice knee-jerk deflection reaction though even if it makes one look like a moron.
     
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    No, irrelevant, why was Biden's name even bought up by Trump when talking to any foreign entity? The phone conversation was about aid to the Ukraine, so why does Trump go out of his way to request, actually according to reports, pressure investigations into potential political rivals?
     
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    Why? Biden's name shouldn't have even come up with Trump talking to foreign entities, well, unless Trump was attempting to get that country involved in our election system, which is a problem
     
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    Innuendo, now you are saying the President of the US should invite foreign nations to get involved in our elections over innuendo?
     
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    I guess somehow the media you listen to failed last Friday to play the recording of Biden bragging about how he got the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son by threatening to withhold one Billion dollars of US money we gave them. I heard Biden's comments Friday on WMAL (105.9) which is a Washington DC station. I read somewhere this recording was from a Biden speech to the CFR. I don't feel like looking it up for you but the recording is no doubt available on the Internet.

    So to answer your question, I believe the President of the US has every right to talk to foreign countries about past corruption involving Biden and 1 Billion dollars of US taxpayer money.

    Do you know anything at all about Hunter Biden's business dealing with the Ukraine? This was even covered by liberal publications such as Politico. I guess you probably think Hunter Biden was hired by the Ukraine to serve on a natural gas board of directors because he knows something about natural gas.
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Again, the same, it is bogus, proven by the simple fact that for two years Trump had full control of Congress and not once, nor did they themselves, ever even hint about a Biden action that deserving investigation, and now, that Trump has been caught trying to pressure the Ukraine into getting involved in our election, Biden is a big concern, so big that Trump talked personally with the President of the Ukraine to get something done about it?

    Your are buying into the predictable Trump deflection, make it all about something else, turn off Fox

    Next
     
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    Even if he was instructed to, that's still a quid pro quo. You cant cover yourself by your boss ordering you to self deal ffs
     
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    It's never been a secret Biden got the guy fired. He wasn't doing his job.
    We didn't give them any money. We were going to guarantee their loan.
    It's against the law for trump to solicit help from a foreign country to influence our election, such as asking them to open an investigation against his opponent or his son.
    Biden was a PR man not a gas man.
     
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    What makes you think he was self dealing?
     
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    Have you not heard his quote to the cfr recently?
     
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    Sure. He said he got the guy fired.
    That was his job at the time.
    He got nothing in return.
     
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    No he said he demanded the guy ****ing with his kid be fired or the us would withhold aid.
    That's a quid pro quo. Since his son was under investigation he shouldn't have been within 30 miles of Ukraine or anything to do with it, much less visiting to give the ultimatum in person
     
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    He said nothing about his kid.
    Why do you make it hard?

    Listen real close and you will hear why he withheld it.
     
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    LOL, Biden and Biden's son breaks the law and now Trump is responsible.
     
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    Well. now that Trump has fessed up to talking about Biden, maybe it's time to get Rudy 911 back on TV to tell us what he threatened.
     
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    The same lame deflection, none of it is about Biden

    First, if this supposed Biden wrong was so bad why didn't the GOP House who controlled the House since 2010 and "investigated" nearly everything Obama/Hillary bring it up? yet along Trump who owned both bodies of Congress for two years never mentioned it before this year when Biden surfaced as a potential political rival? The Biden deflection is bogus

    Trump is responsible for Trump, and it was Trump who asked, or according to reports even attempted to pressure, a foreign nation to become directly involved in our elections. So if tomorrow he rings up Little Rocket Man and asks him for help in his reelection bid that is perfectly fine with you?
     
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    Do you know Michael Steele is a UK spy?
     
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    You mean Trump asked about Biden's criminal activities?

    Despite Warnings Media Steps on a Rake With “Whistleblower” Story – Ukraine Government Initiated Contact – Giuliani Engagement Was Requested by State Dept. Officials…

     
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    Will the dnc call for a special counsel to see what trump spoke about?
     

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