Do you think the things that President Trump is being accused of are wrong?

Err, huh? Perhaps they both did it--that's what we call a "conspiracy", Bob. Do you think that ut has to be one or the other?

Mueller found that Bonespurs knew that the Russians wanted to and were helping him. The Russians wanted Bonespurs to win, and they did help. Bonespurs' idiot son Junior, jailbird Manafort, and complete nerd SIL met with Russian agents IN THE TRUMP TOWER (and lied about it). Mueller stated that he couldn't establish a conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt, but went on to state that witnesses lied, withheld evidence, destroyed evidence, had encrypted documentation, and that some witnesses were unavailable. He went on to state that a more thorough FBI investigation would likely uncover further evidence, but that he was limited in what he was allowed to do.

He certainly amplified Russian propaganda. I call that, at the very least, un-American, and at the worst, treason. But go ahead and tell us it's jim-dandy, "patriot".

 

How. Detail it for us with more than bullshit. Danke.

 

The Mueller report says and this is definitely in the report, that the Russians meddled. And in the same text the declaration is that Trump nor his team played any role at all.

Ukraine wanted Clinton to win. Find fault with Ukraine for it's meddling.

Russia and the USA has an agreement that when Russians violate our laws, and they are in Russia, that our Government can petition Russia to prosecute. If this process is happening now, we should get some news of the Russians going on trial.

Right now, this is all up in the air otherwise so when there is no trial and no conviction, it can't be a definite done deal that the Russians did this. Same goes for Ukraine. Trump wants this to be determined by Ukraine. Biden the dumb cluck screwed up by admitting he put the hammer to Ukraine to get funds that were appropriated by Congress. So he needs to face trial himself.

 

Quote it, Bob. I don't trust your memory.

 

It said the russian meddle and it also DID NOT say that Trump/team played no role at all. NOWHERE.

Gee a candidate for president says he's prepared to give a big chunk of your nation to the russians and you don't think that warrants a protest and op/ed in the washington post? False equivalency works so well with you guys for some obvious reason.

You mean Interpol Red Notices that Russia continually tries to abuse? Its not happening in Russia, there is no way they are going to prosecute nor extradite a citizen (let alone serving army officers). But of course its a perfect little amuse bouche to throw out as yet another indication of a hoax.

It can be definitely declared the Russians did "this" - the indictments are clear. The Biden nonsense is fodder for the ignorant and the blind partisan while the facts totally belie the idiotic false narrative that is being pushed by trump and his trumpettes.

Trump is a corrupt liar who has broken the law multiple times while on top of that has behaved in a manner unbecoming, bereft of ethics and morals. What the founders actually referred to as high crimes and misdemeanors.

 

No, on page 5 of the Mueller report it clearly states that Trump nor his team played any role in the Russian meddling.

Trump has kicked Putin's a$$ and no way has he given Putin America. Who put that idea into your head?

I will not declare that Russia will put the meddlers on Trial, but Barr should keep at them and do so publicly to force Putin to do the job. We do not need to go to Russia or for the meddlers to come here, just do what the two governments agreed to do. Why is that too hard for you to understand?

You are clearly not worried about meddling since you resist putting Biden on Trial for extorting a foreign leader.

And you think Ukraine is so innocent? Holy moly, the Democrats truly train it's people.

We apparently are too distant to agree on Trump. Millions of Americans plainly do not agree with you.
Time will tell if the meddling going on now by Democrats in the 2020 election will actually work. I pray the people see through their little plan to cause Trump to lose the 2020 election.

By the way, when I was a Democrat, they trained me as well as you are, so my comments are not a slur of any kind.

 

Are we best of friends? You take liberties with me and my name.
Quote what? I will happily quote what you want when I know what you mean.

 

You have a very poor memory, Bob.

You claimed that "the declaration is that Trump nor his team played any role at all".

That's absolutely nowhere in the Mueller Report. Nowhere.

Why do you make things up?

 

He set the IRS to harass conservative groups.

 

No, he did not. That's a fake conservative talking point, but what's the evidence to support it?

 

No, it is a true conservative talking point which you simply refuse to acknowledge. (I suspect you believe it, you are not stupid.) There is ample evidence and would be more if Lois Lerner had not destroyed two, count 'em, two hard disks.

 

This entire post is fabricated nonsense.

1. Bonespurs has not kicked anyone's ass. He may have licked putin's ass, though. He has routinely given Putn what he wanted, the latest example being in Syria;
2, Biden did not "extort" anything, Bob. He and the entire civilized world wanted Shokin removed, and it was US policy at the time. How about some logi and facts?;
3. How do you contend that the "Democrats trainedUkraine"? Wow;
4. You are plainly making up your history as a "Democrat".

 

I dont acknowledge "talking points". If you have some legal or factual basis, cough it up.

 

That statement doesn't really make sense.

 

No, it says

I presume you can read english.

Huh? How has trump kicked Putins arse. I can't wait for you to enlighten me in all the ways tough guy donnie has kicked Putin's arse.

I realize its difficult for some people to see thru bullshit false equivalencies and then there are the trumpians who take that inability to a whole other level.
The facts are crystal clear and yet you resist examining and buy into this nonsensical accusation.

Ukraine is not innocent. Nobody is.

And yet millions MORE agree with me. Time will tell if the obstruction and meddling that trump is undertaking will actually work. OTOH, most people can see thru his utter depravity and bullshit.

I can see how you could easily be indoctrinated.

Oh dear, it appears I was an idiot to spend all that money and all those hours in continuous education when it appears I could have been trained as well as you have been for free by some partisan hacks spouting talking points. That isn't a slur either.

 

Yes, I have long been fluent in English.
I was raised by Democrats and all of the family were Democrats. But as you love to do, I then battled republicans and used your tactics.

I wised up finally.

Why you excuse Biden for his extortion baffles me.

Oh how did Trump kick Putin's arse? You probably do not read as much as you claim.
1. Much heavier sanctions
2. Publically brags he pushed Putin around a lot more than previous presidents. When Putin hears that no doubt he is angry.
3. Has Armor on Russia's border. I trust Putin loves that, don't you think?
4. Actively giving and selling weapons to Ukraine. This must make Putin want to send Trump presents. And you claim you know things?

 

Jeez, Robert--your take was not even close.

Why do you do that?

 

Jezzus F Crist. It is on page 5 of the Mueller report. Why didn't you actually read the Mueller report?

F this crap. I will simply use the screen shot of the Mueller report.

First definition of working with the Russians


Next what Mueller found out about Trump and his team vis a vis Russia

 

All you need do is counter my facts. But use facts and not your opinion.

 

You never post any facts. You basically make **** up, and I debunk it. I've done it numerous times---don't tell me you've forgotten already.

 

That's not what it says. At all. It says:

Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

 

You must have copied and pasted what I handed to you. In your CP job clearly it says Mueller did not establish da da da. Its above a direct copy from what I posted.

 

Prove your claims. Stop badgering me with your unfounded personal opinions.

 

The Mueller Report doesn't state anything that you've claimed. Not even close. I'm not "badgering" you in the slightest.

If it did, you'd simply quote it. I've read the entire report. I know what it says, and nowhere in that report does it state that Trump did not "collude" or "conspire". Is that a difficult concept? Cripes.

 

How could I cut and paste your post when what I quoted came from the Mueller Report?

And, no---it doesn't state anything like "Trump didn't conspire or collude". It states that the investigation did not establish that he did, meaning that Mueller's conclusion had more to do with a lack of evidence; it was NOT some sort of magical exoneration, which is what you keep claiming.

Mueller also states 2 things which are quite important:

1. That witnesses lied, destroyed evidence, mislead investigators, had encrytped documents which could not be deciphered, or were in other countries and could not be interviewed; and
2. That a more thorough FBI investigation would likely uncover crimes in the conspiracy realm.

Keep in mind that he was not given carte blanche to do what ever he wanted to do. His investigation was limited.