Do you think Trump was justified in asking Ukraine to look into potential corruption involving the B

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Was Trump justified in asking Ukraine to look into potential corruption involving the Bidens?

Poll closed Dec 14, 2020.
  1. Yes

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hunter said he probably would not have been hired if it weren't for his last name. Straight out of the horse's mouth.
     
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    Le Chef Well-Known Member Donor

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    Thank you for that. But somebody must have expected him to do something.

    I don't blame a person for using connections to get jobs. It's the way the world works. But even Bill Maher is rolling his eyes at this ome
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hunter Biden IS an "actually qualified lawyer".

    The job wasn't created just for him. And, as I already explained, the company - like lots of Ukrainian companies - wanted well-known names on it's board. Biden has a well-known name, as did other board members. As well as being an "actually qualified lawyer".

    It's really very simple, unless you're looking for something that's just not there.
     
  4. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, if I owned a multi-million dollar gas company, I'd sure want someone who has spent years going 'round the revolving door of drug rehab and drug relapse cycles...and I'd give them a huge signing bonus if they knew nothing about the oil or gas industry. That would be the dream candidate for a director in charge of strategy and finance!

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. Le Chef

    Le Chef Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, it's simple, I grant you that. They wanted Jr. in order to curry commercial and trade favors from daddy. Any other hypothesis is just naive. I gave you about 3 chances to offer an innocent and plausible alternative explanation. You offered zero, other than "They just needed a good lawyer!" Oh, brother.

    To be fair to Joe, I don't allege that he was in any way complicit in this, but Trump was justified in detecting something rotten in Denmark, given the odd coincidence of Joe bragging about strong arming that Ukrainian prosecutor out of his job. And sure, Trump wanted to make hay out of it. Two things can be true at the same time.

    I think Jr. has now resigned from the board. That reflects consciousness of an unethical arrangement with that company. Otherwise, why resign?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Zelensky was elected Ukraine's Presidedent April of this year. Hunter Biden's directorship term at Burisma ended April of this year. Apparently his contract/assignment was not renewed.

    He did resign from the Chinese company, so that there would not appear to be any impropriety with his father's presidential run. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thank you, and for the record, I withdraw my claim above to the contrary, but the website won't let me edit the post.
     
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    This is pure speculation.
    Do NOT put things in speech quotes unless I have actually said them.

    I have explained ad nauseum that the benefit to Burisma was another well-known name to boost its image internationally. And, in response to your assertion that Biden was not an actual lawyer, I explained that he IS.

    This is a perfectly "innocent and plausible" explanation. Your "three chances" to offer something else simply shows that you're determined - without any grounds whatsoever - to explain it in a manner which is not innocent. Knock yourself out.
    Again, an ungrounded flight of fancy on your part.

    As he says, because it is complicating his father's run for president.

    And as a reminder, Hunter Biden was not and never has been suspected by Ukraine of any wrong doing.
     
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    Neither would Ivanka or Jared. Don't need a horse's mouth to know that.
     
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    Yes, for a multitude of reasons...therefore it was not only justified but it was his job. For one, doesn't Joe still have security clearance? What if Hunter is funneling/selling Ukraine top security info? What if some of the so called salary he's getting is money laundered and funding Joe's campaign for president? Talk about a conflict of interest!
     
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    All the witnesses testified the corruption in the Ukraine government and with Burisma was of high concern as was Hunter Bidens role in the matter.
     
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    And under our system taking the 5th is not supposed to be an indicator of guilt.
     
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    He could have gone through proper channels and not have his goons do it.
     
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    Lol 8th time’s a charm?...
     
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    Lol..... because shokin was corrupt and hampering investigations. Man twump cultists just believe everything he says.
     
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    Well there seem to be two stories and both have a following. Sorry about your lisp.
     
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    One is right and you are wrong :)
     
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    We can both agree that one is right.
     
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    My understanding is they created the job just for him

    He has the unique qualification of being the son of a man who wrote a lot of the most important and imitated laws regulating the energy industries in the most active energy industry in the world today, that of the USA. These laws were almost all in the nature of landmark legislation, new regulations that had never existed anywhere before and almost always creating and deriving from conditions that existed nowhere else but were becoming increasingly common

    Just about nobody beside Joe Biden and the son who grew up with him would have anything even approaching the unique understanding these two have of these types of regulations and certainly no similar access to the mind of the man who actually wrote the laws. These laws are not at all simple and they can cost Burisma millions, 50 K a month is chump change in comparison to the costs which knowledge possessed by no one other than the Bidens can avoid.
    If they could have hired Joe Biden I am quite convinced they would have and there is nothing corrupt about that. Joe already had a job so they hired Hunter instead, and there is no corruption there either

    Hunter Biden is doing nothing more corrupt than a son writing a biography of a famous father.
     
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    Which bills did Joe write then?
     
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    Really? Which witnesses stated that Hunter Biden was of "high concern", and why?
     
  22. Nemesis

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    Hmmm. This is contrary to Bonespurs' claims. You'd better check this out.
     
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    So what?
     
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    I don't care what he says he doesn't speak for me. If you are on a jury and someone pleads the 5th you will be instructed you cannot take that as an indicator of guilt. I know the Democrats would like to change the fact that exercising you constitutional rights is not illegal but they haven't succeeded yet.
     
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    Influence peddling, you're OK with it when it involves the US Government?
     

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