Doctors grow frustrated over COVID-19 denial, misinformation

Vaccines do not destroy immunity. Please learn the facts and stop echoing the dangerous tinfoil nonsense that is getting thousands of more people killed.

 

We have no evidence repeated vaccination for Covid negatively affects the immune system. We do however have solid evidence repeated influenza vaccination does in fact negatively affect the immune system leading to decreased efficacy of influenza vaccination in later years.

https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/8/3/ofab069/6129135

This information is not generally considered fit for public consumption but it’s factual. Just because information is withheld from you doesn’t mean people who are aware of it are trying to kill people or are tinfoil hat wearing posters of nonsense.

 

Um no. There is no 100% "immune". Here's the relevant study.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

Key points from the abstract:

1. "When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease."

2. "Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant."

This tells us that natural immunity is better, but not 100% and does fade over time. And more importantly that vaccination plus natural immunity is better than natural immunity alone.

It's not experimental. Billions have received it and the side effects are rare enough that even young men with more complications from vaccination see a mortality benefit.

In terms of long-term autoimmune disease, the virus has the same spike protein that the vaccine causes your body to produce, and more. So if a long-term autoimmune disease occurs due to cross reactivity, natural is no better.

 

Thanks.

 

Never claimed there was

 

Live Uninhabitated said to you Butterballs: "Um no. There is no 100% "immune". Here's the relevant study." In response to this comment you made: "It's wrong, no need to take the vaccine if you are already immune, that's fact "

Now you state:

You sure as hell did so stop being intellectually dishonest you stated:

You sure as hell did. IF YOU ARE ALREADY IMMUNE is clear. Take responsibility for the nonsense and false information you write.

 

And why do I have dozens of post claiming "There has never been a vaccine that or a cure for the flu or common cold".. Don't play absolute "Literate" immunity is like say "Immune system" do you also think that claim means total Immunity too

 

I think you should be more worried about the "worst cold ever". This is what some experts warned about over a year ago (including the guy invented the mechanism for the Covid vaccine). They were all banned from the MSM and mainline social media and I mainly could only catch their thoughts on alt tech. What is so bizarre is this is EXACTLY what they predicted, that the vaccinations could ultimately weaken the immune systems of those who take it and make them much more vulnerable to the cold and flu viruses. In fact, they were worried about the vaccine affecting the immune system to the point that those with it would need to get the booster for the rest of their lives just to survive. If it does come to pass, it will be fascinating to see the lies the "experts" feed the MSM and the ready willingness of the progressives to listen and believe. I hope to God the people banned to alt tech were just kooks but my God if they were right, there really is no future (especially for the vaccinated).

 

You know who you are? The prime spreader of misinformation doesn't know where he is, let alone who he us or what's going on . He speaks anyway. At his last town hall outing, he lost contact with his mind and his thoughts, stopped in mid sentence, came to a dead end asked the host what he was doing there. The credibility of the medical professionals, most of whom are principled people- is deeply tainted by the wide support for those who are not, and the fact that they support the desired political prognosis.

Fauci tops that list. On record he told us that Gain Of Function research was never supported with our money. Now we have written acknowledgement that it was. The implication of that is clear- that our own top medical agencies supported the development of the covid pandemic. Probable cause to conclude that this pandemic has resulted from that high-risk research and the inadequate security of the facility- is quite obvious, a conclusion less difficult than a child's connect the dots picture.

We're told how critical it is that we all be vaccinated. And vaccinated again. And again. First they say if was to protect us from contracting the disease. When that proved to be untrue, we're told that it reduced the chances of hospitalization and death. Yet, reports like the one below indicate that the majority of those dying were vaccinated. We do know that those who contracted this disease and developed antibodies in the natural way have over 20 times better immunity than the vaccine produces- but politicians insist those people must be vaccinated too. Now we learn that what protection the vaccine does provide weakens rapidly.
we know being vaccinated does not prevent your infection- meaning that if everybody was, transmission, hospitalizations and deaths will continue. Despite that, these inept fools are willing to fire anyone and force them to lose their pensions, not because they want to protect us; we know that is a limited and uncertain benefit- but because they fear not being obeyed. Their insecurity is that severe.

The frustration of doctors should first be seen as resulting from the gross irresponsibility of politicians- and secondly their backing and defense of those political positions instead of standing firmly and honestly on truth. We do have a small percentage of poor doctors as is true in every profession- but we have a huge percentage of poor politicians, that seem to be free of the burdens of honor and responsibility. When you tie yourself to incompetent leadership- you too will look, and soon become- incompetent. The reason people are skeptical of the claims coming from authorities- is that over and over, authorities have proven themselves totally untrustworthy. Those are the people you should be chastising, politicians along with those in the medical field who parrot the positions politicians tell them to take.

 

What goes around comes around.
How Left Contributed to Right's Vaccine Rejectionism
Whittle & Entine, Quillette

". . . But before the Left allows itself to become too smug about this particular right-wing rejection of science, a little history is in order. Seldom discussed, let alone acknowledged, is that right-wing vaccine rejectionism has its roots in mainstream left-wing doctrines. Twenty-five years after Alan Sokal’s celebrated hoax, anti-scientific nonsense from the Left continues to inspire and inform anti-vaxxers’ absurd abuse of science. . . ."

 

That the vaccinated make up a significant portion of the surge and deaths was the only thing that made sense with Fauci's repositioning on boosters and now a second J&J shot.

 

Got a link?

 

They are relatively difficult to find and impossible with google. Found this one through DuckDuckGo. If you are really interested, use DuckDuckGo and do some searches.

https://deitexercise.wordpress.com/2020/11/11/how-covid-19-vaccine-can-destroy-your-immune-system/

 

Or malaria.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28438169/

 

That doesn't strike me as a reliable source.