Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...

Near death experiencer Guy VanHorn McLain was shown something regarding the full meaning of "the restoration of all things."


Guy VanHorn-McLain:
" For I have built my new kingdom already! and positioned my Seraphym at the borders! For old ways weather away like water washed stone. My new promised land claims are all in your hearts who seek my kingdom or earthly borders crumble and fences errode. But my kingdom shall not errode and my borders grow broader. Seek you first My kingdom or else you pioneer in vain." This is a new word I bring from the Most High. The Ancient of days decrees this and so it shall be !!!!"


Guy VanHorn-McLain:
"I see the walls crumble and the gulf around the inner wall fills with cooled stone. Every light ever created by god will be redeemed by the act of His Son who he had sent to us. There should be no more attachment to the Idea that if we make mistakes we will end up in a Gulag. That is man's ways Not I Am's The Ancient of Days"


Guy VanHorn-McLain:
"The Daemon will shed his clothes of torment and be offered vestures of gold and light. And Be healed from the wounds created by the father of all lies who tricked each aND EVERY ONE OF THEM. tHE fALLEN ONES RISE AGAIN AND SERVE IN love"

 

As the Book of Revelations says, all of creation will eventually be redeemed and recovered by God.

That includes Satan. Various colorful metaphors allude to his coming and going, but they can be interpreted as the usual cyclic process, Involution/Evolution. Energy dominating over matter and spirit / spirit dominating over matter and energy. Division, conflicting interaction, war and hate / cooperation, cohesion, synergy, and love.

Demon est Deus Inversus

Serpent the troublemaker / "Be ye wise as serpents"

When his work is done, Satan the fallen King is to be elevated to his proper place just as mankind also achieves elevated qualifications. Wikipedia's review of the book "The Sorrows of Satan" suggests that Satan is a staunch believer in the Gospels but is forbidden to partake of it.

In the book "The God Problem", creation via early stages in the Big Bang results from warring particles cooling off enough to compromise. The electron becomes subordinate to the monstrous proton but gets to have a lot to say about what can and can't be done thereafter. Economies surge and expand like fractals but the bubbles they generate must reverse.

 

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You my friend are capable of saving thousands...… maybe millions...… perhaps even billions of lives over the up coming five to ten decades!


Hosea 4:6


"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

There is an obvious reverse something or other ..... corollary........that can be gleaned from this scripture....... When one person has a colossal amount of understanding plus knowledge....... that person can change the world in so many ways that they will even astonish themselves..........

Gelecski7238..... can you read Isaiah chapter 45 without getting some sort of symptom such as chills running up and down your spine or a serious surge in mental/ spiritual/ emotional energy?

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=45&t=KJV


Isa 45:1

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"Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;"

 

God has those nasty angels chained up in a dark dungeon.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter%202:4&version=CEB;NLT;CEV;MSG;NKJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude 1:6&version=CEB;NLT;CEV;MSG;NKJV

 

2 Peter 2:4New Living Translation (NLT)

"4 For God did not spare even the angels who sinned. He threw them into hell,[a] in gloomy pits of darkness, where they are being held until the day of judgment. "

Cephas/ Peter..... was probably quoting from The Book of Enoch in whatever form of it was available to him at that time.

Certain human beings have been granted the ability to have an out of the body experience or near death experience....... meet with angels...… meet with deceased relatives and even saints........ then they ..... if they cannot read or write perhaps hire some scribes to copy out their experiences as best as they can describe it....... and in our time period most near death experiencers state that the English language doesn't have sufficient words to tell us about what they went through.

Time goes on...… perhaps a religion builds up around a near death experience account...… then the experts take over and strain out gnats...… and swallow camels..... and teach people that it is a good idea to drive a large plane into a tall building?????!!!!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ng-plane-into-tall-building-bad-theology.html

OBE evidence that driving a plane into a tall building is bad theology!???



Dr. P. M. H. Atwater had three near death experiences in 1977!

She claims to have done an out of body experience and travelled to the scene of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack.

What she saw could inspire people to begin to question the wisdom of taking religion to a place where it justifies violence!

http://www.near-death.com/atwater/september11/index.html#two

 

Rubbish.

 

Perhaps.............. then what word would you personally use to describe the state of mind that Robin Williams was in when he decided that the best course of action was to take his own life?


I admit that I could be wrong..... but at this moment I am quite convinced that what goes on in fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth dimensional space - time all around each of us.......... is in many ways more real that what we see in fourth dimensional space - time.

In my opinion.... the book..... "The Vision" by Rick Joyner..... is similar to the vision given to Simon Peter/ Cephas in Acts 10....... but longer and easier to understand...… Pastor Rick Joyner has a massive "Cephas/Peter" calling = anointing = mantle on his life.........… and the "good Christian souls" who feel superior to him......… will one day regret their attitude of superiority and see it for what it is.

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/365987-story-homeless-man-angelo-rick-joyner.html

The story of homeless man Angelo by Rick Joyner!

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In my opinion........ while he was human...… homeless guy Angelo could pray and have far far far far more of an effect on the fate of the United States..... than the President himself could do in an important meeting with the supposed movers and shakers...… and brilliant experts!?

 

People love imaginary things. They create imaginary gods, heavens, hells, all kinds of supernatural entities. And then, when that isn't enough, they create imaginary realities because they can't accept the fact that the current existence that they are experiencing is all that there is. People love lies and get very upset when they aren't fed them on a constant basis. The more outrageous the lie is the more fervently they believe it.

 

Actually….. a very high percentage of professional Christians do not like NDE accounts because they offer some hope for the dead being saved…… even after death….. which is not what they were taught in Bible College.

 

More likely the real heroes are the authors who make critical discoveries. My contribution in calling attention to them and tying them a bit closer together, i.e. making a more comprehensive picture, is meager in comparison.

It's a lot of ballyhoo influenced by the times of Cyrus, Ezra, and Nehemia. Cyrus was the key to the Jews' return from Babylonian captivity and consequently the opportunity for rebuilding the temple. Hence Cyrus qualifies for a generous earful from God. I'm not impressed. Undoubtedly there's a lot of symbolic content throughout, such as the theme of twin gates opening and being resistant to closing, much like the way a book is used in Revelations. I didn't notice anything special. Maybe I'm numb from all the grandiloquence in Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelations.

Edit/add: Sometimes wisdom makes a big difference, and sometimes a single individual can have a far reaching impact on the course of history.

 

A man from Uganda who I am fairly certain had a near death experience during a bout with Malaria has written an article on a modern Cyrus type of political leader that in my opinion…… is the best theory that I have ever read on how Isaiah chapter 45 applies to our time period.

If you got together a film production cooperative and attempted to get something going on the local level where you are……….. Ancient King Cyrus had 127 separate provinces to run…. .so there were a minimum of 128 kings and/or queens who were functioning at something like a Cyrus level of consciousness as they carried out decrees from Cyrus.

A small group of people set up The Ithaca Hour and it could be amazing what you personally could accomplish through your writings if you got a group together to assist.

Gelecski7238….. you might just play a massive role in messing up the plans of the ultimate bad guy perhaps simply by promoting some truly worthy project in a wise and effective manner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_Hours

 

Particularly as Cyrus puts everything down to the god he worships - Marduk.

 

Imagine that: the Hebrews claimed that their God was telling the biggest Pagan in the land what to do.

 

The bad guys are alive and well on planet earth, and I am inclined to throw a monkey wrench into their schemes, but in the foreseeable future I won't be doing anything more than taking little pot shots at them.

Anyone who is willing and able to get their war chariots rolling for a good cause can have at it.

 

The Hebrews don't. They claim it was their god JHWH. Cyrus himself claimed it. Try the Cyrus Cylinder - now in the British Museum.

And if we're recommending books. May I recommend an interesting one in which 'dreams' and 'miracles' play a large part. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. He even has a near death experience. If you believe your books you'll believe this.

 

I was influenced by the Bible's Isaiah chapter 45. It has God pushing Cyrus every which way.

 

Well…… if Marduk in the Persian language might perhaps also have been named Azazel in Hebrew….. then maybe he was still in communication with YHWH… and may still have been passing on messages……

That might help to explain how he got mentioned in Leviticus 16:10…..

"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel."(Leviticus 16:10 RSV)

 

Merodach in Hebrew.

Azazel either means 'wilderness place' or it is a fallen angel. As the goat was sent into the wilderness where it was believed demons lived, take your choice. I know the Book of Enoch refers to the 'fallen angel'.

 

After giving this topic a lot of thought….. I am convinced that the latter day Cyrus type political leader as elaborated on by Eporu Ronald Alfred and Isaiah…..is the anti- anti- Christ……. but will the majority of people in the church be so messed up that they get him all confused with the bad guy????!!!

 

Mellen Benedict saw that when we begin to unite.... and draw together.... the people in some sort of "hell" can walk out together!


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a08

 

Somebody who knows their demonology wrote me an e-mail and stated that Azazel was once the Arch-angel of Hope... but became the fallen angel of despair when he fell.

They also wrote that he was associated with fame!! Certainly getting your own verse in the Jewish canon makes you pretty famous..... which I suppose can be pretty rough if you are fallen angel..... The top fallen angel might get jealous!

 

I personally am in no position to utterly rule out the possibility that in the between life state.... some of us might even incarnate as a snake in order to gain empathy for their situation?????!

Helen Wambach Ph. D. in her research mentions not running into cases of incarnating as animals..... but .... it would be difficult to rule out this as a possibility..... because as they say.... there seems to be exceptions to virtually every rule?!?!

http://community.humanityhealing.ne...9557&id=1388889:Topic:1464092&page=1#comments

 

At some point, doesn't this thread equate to debating "Did Morgoth and Sauron rebel or were they doing Eru's will in The Silmarillion"?

Oh, and throw in somebody having an NDE that showed them where Gollum's Cave is in the hills of Kentucky.

 

The Nephilim come from Babylonian mythology....

 

Good point............… If Judaism is properly understood......… it is founded upon a basic respect for the positive aspects of Egyptian, Babylonian and Medo- Persian society, culture, philosophy and even theology.

The statements about King Nebuchadnezzar..... as well as the Babylonian Empire being a "head of gold" and Medo - Persia being shoulders and chest and two arms of "silver" implies respect for these cultures..... and by implication for the ways in which they were seeking to serve the Creator?!