Does anyone support these elements of creationism?

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This is preposterous. The Canaanites weren't attacking the Israelites.

    The Israelites came in and demanded the property of all Canaanites and slaughtered them when they objected.

    That is NOTHING like the USA in WWII.

    And, you already KNEW that, because I pointed that out above.
     
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    Some of the pagan nations then were, and BTW the Canaanites weren't destroyed, they just moved to what is now Lebanon. See https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-canaanites-werent-annihilated-they-just-moved-to-lebanon/

    Displacing or dispossessing people isn't a genocidal act, according to international law. Consider the case of Jorgic v. Germany. The international court stated, "Amongst scholars, the majority have taken the view that ethnic cleansing, in the way in which it was carried out b the Serb forces in Bosnia and Herzegovina in order to expel Muslims and Croats from their homes, did not constitute genocide." Another example is Prosecutor v. Kupreskic. In this case, the court found that Croat soldiers had attacked a small village in central Bosnia, killing 116 inhabitants and destroying 27 houses and several mosques. The court ruled this was not genocidal. "In the present case, according to the Prosecution - and this is a point on which the Trial Chamber agrees - the killing of Muslim civilians was primarily aimed at expelling the group from the village, not at destroying the group as such."

    Funny how those who believe in a woman's right to do as she wills 'with her own body', deny that same right to God to do what He wills with His creation.

    Agreed, probably many more were killed by the US.

    No, you gave me your opinion, which I reject.
     
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    After the fall of the Tower of Babylon, God meted out territories to 70 other gods i.e. fallen angels, and kept Israel for His people, (probably the worse bunch to have to work with! LOL). The sub-text, or perhaps the supertext to the Conquest story is God pushing out the "gods" infesting the Promised Land of His people.
     
  4. WillReadmore

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    You aren't even starting to get it.

    Jericho was a well developed city of the time. And, the Israelites slaughtered every man, woman, child and animal in order to STEAL THEIR LAND.

    That is NOT comparable to any US action in WWII.
     
  5. Paul7

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    God can do with His creation as He wills. The Canaanites were hardly innocent, and note God in His patience waited four centuries to give them a chance to repent. From an article by Eric Lyons:

    "The Canaanite nations were punished because of their extreme wickedness. God did not cast out the Canaanites for being a particular race or ethnic group. God did not send the Israelites into the land of Canaan to destroy a number of righteous nations. On the contrary, the Canaanite nations were horribly depraved. They practiced “abominable customs” (Leviticus 18:30) and did “detestable things” (Deuteronomy 18:9, NASB). They practiced idolatry, witchcraft, soothsaying, and sorcery. They attempted to cast spells upon people and call up the dead (Deuteronomy 18:10-11).

    Their “cultic practice was barbarous and thoroughly licentious” (Unger, 1954, p. 175). Their “deities…had no moral character whatever,” which “must have brought out the worst traits in their devotees and entailed many of the most demoralizing practices of the time,” including orgiastic nature-worship, snake worship, and even child sacrifice (Unger, p. 175; cf. Albright, 1940, p. 214). As Moses wrote, the inhabitants of Canaan would “burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods” (Deuteronomy 12:30). The Canaanite nations were anything but “innocent.” In truth, “[t]hese Canaanite cults were utterly immoral, decadent, and corrupt, dangerously contaminating and thoroughly justifying the divine command to destroy their devotees” (Unger, They were so nefarious that God said they defiled the land and the land could stomach them no longer—“the land vomited out its inhabitants” (Leviticus 18:25)."

    Did we not firebomb Dresden in our effort to eradicate evil? God's chosen people could not coexist with such evil in the land God gave them.
     
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  6. WillReadmore

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    No, we firebombed Dresden in a stupendous demonstration of total lack of morality.

    Yes, god can destroy anyone if he's like what you claim.

    NO, nothing Canaanites did warranted that they be slaughtered in a brutal act of planned ethnic cleansing and genocide.

    NOTHING related to the Israelites justified that kind of sin - regardless of what Israelites wrote in their Bible about their own actions.
     
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    If you believe in the myth of personal autonomy and have no concept of sin, of course what Israel did in the OT will make no sense to you.
     

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