Does CO2 really drive global warming?

I have addressed it 3 times now. Why do you keeping running away and ignoring my posts?

 

And scientists everywhere - they are not dumb. Water vapour has been factored in

Unfortunately it is the poor deluded denialists who cannot seem to see that, and even when shown keep repeating the same old debunked mantras

http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-models.htm

 

Quote the study. Highlight the null hypothesis. Quote the confidence testing.

Mod Edit for insult

 

Not to counter point the religion of global warming, but we have about the same amount of evidence that CO2 causes global warming as we have that the moral decline in our culture is causing global warming is just bringing us all closer to hell.

 

The essence of modern scientific inquire is hypothesis testing. If this is news to you, you'll need to do your own homework.

 

Test this hypothesis.

Actually, many scientists now believe the earth's gradual global heating phase has stopped, and now it is entering a global cooling phase for the next 50-75 years.

Much like the Medieval Warm Period followed immediately later by the Little Ice Age.

Hypothesis.

By the way, was “anthropogenic" global warming responsible for when we entered the Medieval Warm Period, and later, when we began to warm after the Little Ice Age?

The global "alarmists" will not answer these questions!

 

Awww! Bless!


The posted "proof" is a picture off of "photo bucket" - which gives it less credibility than too often posted same old same old cartoons

 

CO2 during the Jurassic period was five times higher than it is today and plants and animals flourished.

 

Atta way!!!!!!!!

 

And the solar output then was?

And we were in what part of the orbital Milankovitch cycle?

The particulate matter in the upper atmosphere was how thick?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-higher-in-past-intermediate.htm

Most importantly - were those plants and animals adapted to that CO2 level?

 

Compared to the past 4.6 billion years, the Earth is still trying to recover from the last ice age...

 

YEs, we do know this

That is a graph made by a SCIENTIST - you know someone who has studied the data and actually knows more than the average illiterate blogger?

 

Um...your redirects leave much to be desired.

Like - for instance - substance.

 

Sorry - are you trying to infer that that graph is unknown to the scientific world?

 

Um...no - and that's why Moton offered it to you. The graph definitely illustrates that our existing climatic conditions are not new or extraordinary by any means when viewed through a large enough prism.

But your nose is directly against frosted glass, and you're screaming about how much you can see.

 

Okay - then why is science right about the graph but wrong about what it currently happening?

And I ask again - do you think scientists are unaware of that graph? I will even add "Do you think they do NOT use it to help determine what is currently happening in the world?"

 

look, I think we all can agree on something..factories, cars and power plants do pollute the air..ever been to Manila or Shanghai..you can't even breath..
does it affect our climate change? I doubt it..if it does it's not by much..
have they invented a machine that can produce more energy then it takes to run it..I bet they have..and I'm not talking about nuclear..
can we afford to give up all those jobs that produce oil, coal and gas..Nope..
we'll just have to wait till it runs out and take it from there..

 

One more thread on GW, and the same argument from the church of Global Warming, is that humans are the cause and effect of all things ill with the earth. If any of you warmists that really believed as deeply as you do, then you would all be living like the Amish in Pennsylvania with no modern conveniences that would harm the earth's atmosphere, just a lot of horse (*)(*)(*)(*) to clean up.

Here is an amazing documentary from the History Channel, called, "How the Earth Was Made". Amazing the transformation of this planet in 4.5 billion years. Humans are but 2 seconds of existence on this 24 hour clock, and yet this religion of warmists, we are the cause.

So for you warming cultists, instead of shoving your religious beliefs down the throats of everyone, go make a snack tray and sit back and watch how much this earth has changed since it's formation.

http://www.history.com/shows/how-the-earth-was-made/videos#the-age-of-earth

 

The premise of your post is idiotic.

Can I not kill someone because most people throughout history died from natural causes?

Can I not build a lake because most lakes are natural?

Can I not light a bushfire because bushfires predate humans?

No doubt you'll just declare those dumb examples even though they use the EXACT same logic that you just employed, which says a lot about your sense of logic.

 

The one thing you forgot on your list panzie, is that humans cannot change our climate.

You failed with examples because climate is so complex and our cause and effect have really no significance in these minuscule time frames of human industrialization. Your scoffing at how the earth has changed all on it's own is quite revealing of your cultist GW religion, "quick you have to believe me now or we will all die". Psst, I hate to break this to you self professed GW geniuses, we are all going to die anyway, and there is nothing you will be able to do about it.

 

Quote the study. Highlight the null hypothesis. Quote the confidence testing.

Waiting...............

You can cry to the mods but you can't engage the issue. No surprise.

 

Do you think it automatically follows that simply because many of us believe that there is a concerted effort to skew the meaning of some data - and outright skew the data itself - that some information isn't useful enough to counter those types of attempts?

Of course they're aware. Some information has pre-dated the AGW agenda, and simply has to be absorbed into the effort. Much of the time, that simply means downplaying its implications.

When was the last time you heard the media attempt to compare our present CO² levels to the Jurassic Period?

 

You are indeed correct, Subdermal.

Actually, the media often conceals the information on the global carbon dioxide levels during the Jurassic Period! They were much higher back then than they are now and were responsible for the lush vegetation that existed during that period of the earth's geological history!

 

Ha-Ha!

Like Albert Gore the leftists in this group rant and rave about our use of fossil fuels, and they are the last among us to agree to give them up.

Pure hypocrisy and total dishonesty on Albert Gore's part and their part and nothing else!

 

OK. So why do you not state the null hypothesis for AGW instead of just repeating some criticism you read on a blog? And be sure to give reasons why!