Does Lady Liberty still Represent the USA?

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Should the Plaque be Removed?

  1. Remove the Plaque

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  2. Keep the Plaque

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    61.9%
  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think this highlights how Lady Liberty no longer represents the USA - we're no longer the liberal, free country that we were when that statue was erected. We're a 'mature' nation now with a welfare state, a high and well-established population, and no longer expanding our borders. Our people, all descendants of immigrants who came to that free country of the past, are now bitter about newcomers coming in and benefiting on their backs. So, our economy and our culture have changed considerably from then to now, and with this our attitudes toward immigration.

    Might as well take her down and ship her back to France.
     
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    What is the core principle?
     
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    How does allowing illegal alien gangsters, terrorists, etc. to illegally traverse our borders and stay represent the USA? This is never what the Statue of Liberty was meant to represent. Immigrants that came to Ellis Island came here to live in and become Americans legally. They wanted to give their children a legal chance at a better life as Americans and were willing to work hard to attain the American dream. I would argue that American Citizens have less freedom now with illegal aliens taking jobs, inflating their welfare numbers thus taking $$$ away from the truly needy American citizens. Now we have illegal aliens with multiple deportations killing Americans. The left conflates the word 'immigration' with illegal aliens in order to garner Democrat votes thus undermining legal voters. Our economy and culture has not changed it has been attacked by foreign entities.
     
  4. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ^ That message is a study in ignorance and pettiness. So, really, you claims things were more free in the era of slavery and child labor sweatshops?

    Sorry, but you certainly can fantasize that you are a white male slave owner, but that fantasy will never come true in this county. There are other countries in the world you might like better.
     
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    "Land of the Free and home of the Brave" meant land of little government and instead in self reliance.

    Liberalism has rewritten that to "Land of Free stuff and home of the Entitled."
     
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    Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...y-muslim-woman-180957377/#uUIjlTRk2P3TvyZv.99

    Now THAT is funny!!!
     
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    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wonder just ho many slack jawed rubes in flyover country have ever been to the statue of liberty
     
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    The model for the face of Liberty was the sculptor's mother.

    The poem & plaque was not part of the original concept, it was an add on.

    Delete the add on!


    Put out the "Full, No Vacancy" sign.
    We got "liberty", go make your own!

    Remove the plaque.
     
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  9. Guno

    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The plaque as written by a Jewish girl who of course was highly educated

    Lazarus was born into a large Sephardic-Ashkenazi Jewish family, the fourth of seven children of Moses Lazarus and Esther Nathan
     
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    The core principal is we support legal immigrants....not illegal ones who jump ahead of the line...
     
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    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your betters
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Catherine Mélanie Moneuse - Eiffel's mother

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    Statue of Liberty

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  13. Guno

    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    thankfully the right wing white southern christian degenerate :"kulture" has been marginalized
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Got a photo of "mother" in her youth?
    I just know what I learned on PBS, American Experience.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Did her lips shrink? Did her face mutate and jawline shift?

    No way is that the same woman. FWIW, I always believed the same thing. This was the first I had heard about it.

    Another myth busted!

    It may be that the story about his mother was created to hide it's true origins - by the US, maybe the French, or even Eiffel himself. Maybe Eiffel was just lying to his mother so she would love him. :D
     
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    oy vey
     
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    growing up we went there on school trips , back then you could go up into the crown, a winding staircase

    Every year either the statue of liberty the UN of the musems
     
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    kind of like how white neo confederate southern Christians are viewed now by the educated parts of the United States
     
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    I don't give a damn about the plaque. And I am tired of hearing about the statue of liberty and what she thinks. The statue of liberty doesn't make our laws. And things are much different now than they were when she was anchored there. Sometimes, I wish the French would just take her back if we are going to attach such importance to every word we can put in her mouth.
     
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    I think she should be deported... or at least her spikes should be chopped off... and her liberally militant offensive arm lowered..
     
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    L M A O!
     
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    Our policy should be determined by critically assessed data and what best serves the US, not cheap platitudes from some Frog...
     
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    We should do what other countries like Canada (you know the country all the liberals say we should be more like) and use the point system.......oh wait liberals consider that racist which must mean that Canada is racist now. So I am confused are we still supposed to be more like racist Canada or not. Being a liberal is very taxing having to constantly shift views on any given subject.
     
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    Lady Liberty does indeed still represent America, regardless of how it seems our President does not think so.
     
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    Did it ever?
    Has America truly ever been a land of liberty for all? Obviously not. Obviously it is still not.

    -We still have radical Mullah-Esq conservative religious factions openly trying to dismantle the country and put us back in the middle ages.

    -Science, Atheism and numerous other forms of progression are still in their infancy and attacked nonstop by the zealot factions who have been left out of the success of America and are angry when ironically they'd benefit most of all from embracing these things.

    While I like America and am happy to reside in it, America simply has the best bullshit story of any country, that's why it's a success, not because it truly does anything radically different.


    We do the exact same thing as every other tier 1 country the only difference is we have oceans protecting us from the greater world and its ills. We don't actually do anything else fundamentally different in how things are run. If the US wasn't so geographically secluded it would just be another tier 1 country with a large group of rich people and masses of poor zealot religious lost people just as every other country on earth. The only reason America differs is because the zealot poor in America benefit so immensely from the phenomenal wealth of the elite here that they come under the illusion that they're special and unique in the world when in reality they aren't, they're simply direct beneficiaries due to US geographical seclusion of the nations elite's wealth that trickles down to them. Such is why they want immigration shut off. They are starting to realize this reality that they are not special, that, basically, a poor white person in America or a poor black person or a poor Hispanic person or a poor whatever person in America is not actually in any real definable way special or different compared to their equivalents in any other comparable country and this is being pushed in their faces due to immigration.

    It's hopeless though for their efforts, while noble, are doomed to fail. There's so many immigrants (non-European descent, non Afram classical descent) in America now that the future of the nation, even if you shut off immigration forever, due to immigrant birth rates and differing values, the US will be a racially segmented, racially divided nation based on class, race in coming decades. (One could very well argue, as I would, that we've been that for a long time already and the grunt masses are simply stumbling upon that truth that many at the middle and top have always known).
     

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