Does Religious Freedom Supercede Gender Identity?

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  1. Levant

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    Interesting question as the left continues to get laws passed preventing psychological treatment for homosexuality. People struggle with self-identity because they don't know who they are or understand their feelings about who they are. Irreversible therapy to change who they are and ensure they can never change their mind is OK but therapy to help them accept who they are, that they could always go against if they change their mind in the future, is forbidden.
     
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    Other animals don't do religion either so I guess that's a perversion too. :cool:
     
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    Levant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As long as Trump is re-elected and gets to appoint a conservative to replace RBG.
     
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    ~ I think that you have the liberty to do what you feel is correct. It is your individual choice.
    Where I live you sometimes cannot tell for certain - so we often do not address by gender out of politeness.
     
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    I vote in one every two years — I didn’t really care until a local Mosque wanted to become a voting location and the local churches sought to prevent it. They ended up giving up because well... Tennessee.
     
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    Freedom from religion is nit freedom to never see it — that is the argument that religious people are making in regards to religious freedom. Freedom from religion is to not be impacted due to others religious beliefs.
     
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    You have no idea what you are talking about, the vast majority of the time hormone and reassignment surgery are the very last line of treatment protocols.
     
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    Not to be impacted? Does that mean rush hour in front of Bible College violates your rights? You have the right to not see a community rebuilt after disaster by church youth groups? You have a right to not have the hungry fed? The homeless sheltered? You have the right to not have water and food production brought to the poorest nations in Africa?

    Oh, wait... you never needed those things, did you? Those who received the help of the religious certainly had the right to not be impacted by religion as well. You should travel and remind people they have the right to turn down all the things religious people do that make the world a better place - because of their religion.

    https://religionnews.com/2017/07/20/good-works-of-churches-often-go-unnoticed/
     
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    Yeh, there is absolutely zero of this that concerns me or what I am talking about. I am talking about religious people pushing for laws that take rights away from others, laws that seek to disenfranchise others. I am glad religions groups do good — good for them and their members — that is one of the main reasons I support them remaining tax exempt. Their contributions however do not excuse them from their faults.
     
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    Back to the murder and stealing commandments... You only care selectively about the laws that come from people who happen to have faith.
     
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    No, I care about laws that are en effort to diminish or burden my life.
    That they have “faith” is not the issue — it is them using their faith to justify doing so.
     
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    In which case heterosexuals are EQUALLY DEVIANT when it comes to what they do in their bedrooms. Blowjobs and anal intercourse are commonplace among heterosexuals which makes them just as "deviant" as homosexuals.

    Too bad that REALITY just exposed the FALLACY of your "deviant" nonsense!
     
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    I'm sorry friend but I find a genetics lecture from someone that believes it COULD be true that a virgin gave birth to a child... Let's say hollow.. If we accept that as a COULD be true then it COULD be true someone with a Y chromosome is female. In fact when your starting point is literally miraculous anything COULD be true.
     
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    1 Samuel

    17 And Jonathan had David reaffirm his oath out of love for him, because he loved him as he loved himself.

    41 After the boy had gone, David got up from the south side of the stone and bowed down before Jonathan three times, with his face to the ground. Then they kissed each other and wept together—but David wept the most.

    Your imaginary god didn't have any problem with the homosexual relationship that King David had with Johnathon.

    That is NOT the only instance in your bible where your imaginary god embraced homosexuals either.

    Your imaginary god is not a bigoted homophobe.

    Too bad the same cannot be said about those of his followers who bear false witness about his message to ALL mankind.
     
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    Your criminal IMPOTUS has told the American people over 16,000 LIES which is his PUBLIC LIFE!

    That you SUPPORT his lies means that you are supporting his PUBLIC "sins".
     
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    You are making BASELESS ASSUMPTIONS without any credible substantiation again.
     
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    Vacuous STRAWMAN ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    :roflol:

    Seriously?

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    https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/so-it-turns-out-giraffes-are-gayest-animal-planet231014/
     
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    It is logically IMPOSSIBLE for freedom OF religion to exist WITHOUT freedom FROM religion.
     
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    Thank you establishing that you do not understand how the Constitutional PROHIBITION on the ESTABLISHMENT of religion applies to EVERYTHING else UNDER the Law of the Land.

    This is Civics 101 in all public schools!
     
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    Completely and utterly WRONG but thanks for establishing that you are lacking in subject matter knowledge in this regard.

    ALL states MUST abide by the FEDERAL Constitution without any exceptions.

    Civics 101 again!
     
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    Does it prevent you from supporting a lying president?
     
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    Lol you have no idea what you’re talking about. Nowhere does it state David had a homosexual relationship. That scripture uses the same verbiage, according to strongs concordance, as Genesis 29:13 which states:

    “As soon as Laban heard the news about Jacob, his sister’s son, he hurried to meet him. He embraced him and kissed him and brought him to his home, and there Jacob told him all these things.“

    They weren’t kissing in a sexual manner. Back in those days a kiss similar to what we see used in Europe was used where they kiss each other on the cheek when they meet or leave. They weren’t engaging in sexual entendre lol

    This is what happens when people who don’t have any clue what they’re talking about and have no heart for God read the Bible.

    I’d quote the verses explicitly against homosexuality, but something tells me you’ve heard them all before.
     
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    Lol Lemme guess the cnn fact checkers told you this
     
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    Lol none of those are engaging in sex they’re humping one another in a sign of dominance. Again, provide any actual evidence, say a scientific study, where they argue that two animals are having anal sex and not just engaging in dominant behavior. Your dog doesn’t hump your leg because he wants to have gay sex with you lol

    How pathetic does life have to be that one is so enamored with gay sex that they see it everywhere?
     
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