Does Religious Freedom Supercede Gender Identity?

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  1. TheImmortal

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    I mean the 1st amendment explicitly states congress not government or any entity which takes government funding
     
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    That I have to subsidize their marriage with my tax money for literally no benefit.
     
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    When there is a lack of females two males partner up, but they don’t have sex with one another lol. But this only occurs in situations where females are not present or not available.
     
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    That applies to any marriage: so you want to ban marriage altogether?
     
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    You can't substantiate that.
     
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    Actually, if those acts are commonplace, then they can't be deviant, can they?
     
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    That isn’t true.
    I posted several sources that you blew past — seems to be your standard operating procedure.
     
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    Marriage gives hundreds of both economic and local benefits — that you ignore them just shows your agenda.
     
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    His point is not far off. Initially under the US Constitution, states indeed had state religions, and as has been noted before there were many many religious based laws, such as the prohibition against businesses operating on the Sabbath. It was later in the history of the country, that SCOTUS determined that the freedoms determined in the BOR applied to all levels of government.
     
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    I think he means in terms of household, sharing expenses. And yeah it happens. People get roommates all the time.
     
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    You probably shouldn't be in the care industry?
     
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    I don't think that's what he meant. He used the word partner...
     
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    You may obsess over adults privately engaging in sex and impose your personal judgement however you wish.

    You may be happier if you respect other folks and concern yourself with your own sexual antics.
     
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    That's because there is no psychological treatment for homosexuality.

    It's a natural variation of human sexuality according to every major medical and social scientific organization in the western world.

    There's religious gobbledy cook conversion "therapies" but most of those have closed down now with many of their former operators marrying their same-sex partners and living happily ever after!
     
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    For example, lets say I am faxing a Sally Bowles, PCP about discomfort in her penis. That is exactly how I refer to it around the patient. Its not a surprise to Sally that its still there and it burns when she pees. Here's how I write that fax, consistent with medical needs and Sally's dignity.

    I fill out the paperwork at the top with resident's legal name, PCP, date of birth and the current date. I write the following:

    Res. has been complaining of pain in her penis while urinating, currently taking Aldactone, Progesterone. Res has dx of gender dysphoria and requests we use female pronouns and call her Sally. Resident rights to self determination are honored consistent with CMS guidelines. Sally has hx of UTI. May we have new orders for UA, and Cran tabs?


    There you go. Sally is really not delusional. She knows that she still has a penis and that the surgery for removal is in two months. . She knows it hurts when she pees and needs to be examined and that the treatment requires that the penis be referred to in the fax. The doctor is well aware of the previous diagnosis, the current problem, the medications and the history, and why the patient with the penis is being called 'she'.

    That is how you do this. You are trying to create problems that do not exist.
     
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    But what about their god that will condemn them to hell for calling the patient a her‽‽‽
     
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    Lets see how much time I should to devote to their God and his concerns on gender dysphoria. Done. My cornflakes is getting soggy. I'll try later.
     
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    Vacuous STRAWMAN still being ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    What the theist zealots are advocating is the Christian equivalent of Sharia Law being imposed on our SECULAR government of We the People.
     
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    Just as it proves that your religion should have NOTHING to do with calling someone by their chosen gender.

    If you can CHOOSE a LYING ADULTERER to be your president then you can just as easily call someone who is transgender by their CHOSEN gender.

    See how that works?
     
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    What does Congress DO?

    What was Congress PROHIBITED from DOING in the 1st Amendment?

    What do State and Local governments DO?

    What are State and Local governments PROHIBITED from DOING in the 1st Amendment?

    The ANSWER is that they ALL pass LEGISLATION (AKA Laws) and they are ALL prohibited from passing any legislation that ENDORSES any religion or religious belief.

    Simple straightforward Civics 101 as taught in ALL public schools in America.
     
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    I have to subsidize your churches with my tax money for literally no benefit.
     
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    Just making up crap again because you have nothing of any substance?
     
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    That was my point!
     
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