Does someone's weight affect your perception of them?

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Does someone's weight affect your perception of them?

  1. Yes, I think a person's weight is a reflection of them.

    35.4%
  2. Yes, I wish I didn't but I do unconsciously judge them.

    32.9%
  3. No, I wish they would take their health more seriously, but I don't judge them.

    22.0%
  4. No, weight is cosmetic and many overweight people simply can't help it..

    9.8%
  1. TheChief

    TheChief New Member

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    Sadly a lot of doctors focus on BMI which is extremely bias to buff males. Body-Fat and fitness tests would be a much better representation of health. (at least in comparison)
     
  2. TheChief

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    I advocate choice first. You should be allowed to consume all the things i avoid like the plague if you really want.

    What i want to see is greater public information campaigns slandering junk food and telling it how it is, especially for children. I also believe people who manufacture and sell bad food, drugs, alcohol should be forced to pay taxes for the societal damage they do.

    Swimming is my number one exercise for people of all weights and ages. Jogging or cycling can be hard on your joints but swimming you can do till you literally sink! ^.^
     
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    I can't help but wonder if fat women feel well served by a movement designed to manipulate the preferences of men. I mean, to a woman, what good is a man who allows himself to be so manipulated?

    I assume people are fat because they ingest more than their bodies need and/or stuff their bodies don't need at all, which means when they eat, they're also feeding their egos - not that there aren't countless other ways of doing that, just that it yields an obvious manifestation in fat people.
     
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    just kid'n...no offense intended.
     
  5. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    Waist to Height ratio is a much more accurate measurement. My BMI is 26.7 (overweight) yet my W/H ratio is around 43-44% and my BF% is around 9-10.


    Besides muscular and large framed people, the BMI can also be inaccurate on the opposite side. Many slight framed people with high body fat percentages will still have "healthy" BMI numbers while being overweight.
     
  6. Herkdriver

    Herkdriver New Member

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    The last AF PFT I took before resigning my commission in mid '06 was as follows
    This isn't from memory, I've got it in writing.

    Aerobic Fitness (run time: 13:12) 39 [1.5 mi. run]
    Crunches (30) 7.4 [1 min.]
    Push-ups (25) 7.75 [1 min.]
    Body Composition (Circ: 35 inches) 22.5
    Total Score 76.65
    Fitness Level Good

    BMI = 27.2

    wt. = 206 lbs.
    ht. = 73 in.

    42 years old

    I'm now about 227 lbs...losing 20 lbs. would be a start.
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    *shrug* Honesty isn't always the wisest choice. It's fine to not hire someone for whatever reason is in your head, but if you express that reason you might find yourself facing serious legal consequences.​
     
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    In my personal life I am attracted to skinny women. That is my wiener talking. The problem with that is that as I age and the women in my dating age range are older, if they are skinny it is usually for two reasons (I am in the US), they either have a mental or physical problem.

    At work, I judge no one by what they look like or if they are male or female. I have always treated everyone the same which was funny because some women are used to being babied and don't like equal treatment. You do your work and I am AOK with that.
     
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    No damage is done by manufacturing these things, it's the abuse of them by consumers that leads to most issues. But I might support that tax.​
     
  10. liberalminority

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    there is a moral hazard when manufacturers sell fatty addictive foods, the same moral hazard that follows drug dealers

    even though many of these people are lazy they still are victims and shouldn't be persecuted for someone elses profits.
     
  11. cassandrabandra

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    In my experience, being overweight means a person faces more health risks. Employers will be aware of that so it probably does affect hiring decisions as an employee's health can impact on work ... although obviously it won't be the reason given.
     
  12. PatrickT

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    People can always rationalize their prejudices. Single people lead a riskier life, in general, and have shorter longevity. So do gays. So do young people. So do men.
     
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    oh come on now, you can't seriously be that unaware of the links between being overweight/obese and conditions such as

    Heart disease and stroke.
    High blood pressure.
    Diabetes.
    many forms of Cancer.
    Gallbladder disease and gallstones.
    Osteoarthritis.
    Gout.
    Breathing problems, such as sleep apnea (when a person stops breathing for a short time during sleep) and asthma.

    numerous studies have shown that obesity impacts negatively on work productivity, and also results in more absences due to health related concerns.

    there are also some studies that show obesity also "supersizes" worker's compensation costs.

    it is better business practice to choose healthy weight workers rather than obese workers.

    its also in the interests of business to encourage overweight workers to lose weight. encouraging them to take regular breaks and go for a walk is a good strategy that is recommended by OSH practitioners.
     
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    Wow, what state do you live in? LOL
     
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    Being obese is a condition that folks so afflicted must overcome IMO. That is, if one is very obese, the first impression is not favorable.
     
  16. PatrickT

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    Oh, come on now. You can't seriously be that unaware of the statistically significant shorter life expectancy for men? I can believe you don't care but you can be unaware. Well, maybe you can. And young people? Get real. My son was shocked when he got his first life insurance policy to learn his life expectancy was less than mine. I pointed out that I had passed the age for many of the risky activities. And, I'm sure you're not unaware of the increased risks of being HIV positive for gay men. That can also be very expensive.

    But, when we don't want to hire a fat person, it's the health costs. And, when we don't want "those" people in our neighorhood, it's the property values. And, if someone dares to challenge our bigotry, we fight back. Me, I admit my perception upon seeing a hugely fat person is not positive. A job applicant that has to sit on two chairs will have a harder sell. If the chairs break, he's toast. That doesn't stop me from loving them once Iknow tham but my initial perception is not positive. Oh, and I don't try to claim it's anything but my bias. I'll be forced to pay their health costs whether they work for me or not.
     
  17. cassandrabandra

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    being a young male may mean you are in a higher risk group for a number of things. being a male may mean your life expectation is approx 5 years shorter than a woman's, but in both cases you as an individual do not show obvious signs that your health is compromised.

    being obese, you do.

    I have no problem with people who are overweight (although to be perfectly honest, most I have met with other than those whose weight gain is linked to medication for other conditions, do tend to show a lack of self control ... just like people who have other types of addictions).

    I am just saying that for an employer, it would be more rational NOT to hire an obese person if there is a choice to hire someone who is not obese.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUqJUH55zxQ"]The best of fat bastard - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    A woman`s weight does affect my perception of her, particularly if she`s got it all in the right places.
     
  20. PatrickT

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    And, I am simply saying you are trying to rationalize your bigotry. It's no more rational than saying that the young adult male engaging in risky sports activity will cost money or that young women will probably get pregnant and cost money or that old guy will probably get sick and die on me.
     
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    you are reading something that is not there.

    if you were an employer, it would be rational for you to consider these things not because you were a bigot, but because you were aware of increases costs associated with people who have poor health.
     
  22. Wolverine

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    Meh. I realize that there can be a myriad of health conditions that contribute to weight.

    However, you don't get to 250lbs. running laps.

    Just saying.
     
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    Beats the general sale tax and income tax for sure... (Why would you tax sales and income!? are you TRYING too scare people off working/consuming?!) xP
     
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    What about women of child bearing age? I hope you aren`t too bigoted to see the commercial realities here.
     
  25. cassandrabandra

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    thats a good point, however, if you make it too difficult for women to have children, it has far reaching consequences for society. women make up almost half th epaid workforce in modern industriaised countries, and many only take a limited amount of time out of paid employmnet to have children. THose who take longer will often leave employment alltogether and start in a new job later.

    on the other hand, people with obesity related health issues tend to stay in th ejob long term, and their health has real cost impacts to the employer that can be ongoing.

    there are a lot of sources that discuss the real cost of obesity in the workplace.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20881629


    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Artic...-Costs-of-Obesity-in-the-Workplace.aspx#page1
     

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