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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Marine1, Nov 8, 2019.

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  1. KAMALAYKA

    KAMALAYKA Banned

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    What are you talking about? Hunter Biden is not running, and he never held office to have been able to commit a treasonous act while in office.
     
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    KAMALAYKA, Nov 8, 2019
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    I already did with that link.
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 8, 2019
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  3. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Left bias.
     
    Marine1, Nov 8, 2019
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    Does Trump really need to defend himself over nothing? This just make democrats look like complete idiots. According to numerous sources Trump's Ukrainian policy was a substantial improvement on Obama's adminstration policies.

    Basically, democrats want to impeach Trump just because his policy on Ukraine was a substantial improvement in comparison with Obama's. Right?

    Testimony: How Trump helped Ukraine

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/testimony-how-trump-helped-ukraine

    Was it a substantial improvement?"

    "It was a substantial improvement, in that this administration provided Javelin anti-tank weapons," Taylor explained. The shoulder-fired missiles, he said, "successfully deter Russians from trying to grab more territory."....

    "Despite Yovanovitch's advocacy, that aid never came from Obama. From Trump, it did. Amid all the accusations flying around in the Democratic impeachment campaign, it's important to remember that basic fact."
     
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  5. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not only that, he also supplied them with more weapons later, as I showed earlier. That is twice he helped them while Obama turned down all weapons to them. He gave them stuff like food, uniforms night vision glasses and blankets. The President of Ukraine said later, you can't fight a war with blankets.


    1. Poroshenko: Ukraine can't win war 'with blankets' - BBC News
      https://www.bbc.com/.../poroshenko-ukraine-can-t-win-war-with-blankets
      Poroshenko: Ukraine can't win war 'with blankets'. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has appealed to the US and the international community for more weapons to help in its fight against pro-Russian separatists. Mr Poroshenko was addressing Congress on Capitol Hill in Washington DC. He stated the need for lethal and non-lethal military...
     
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    A billion what? Tanks, missiles, rifles?
     
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    Not really the same. The Obama administration flat out refused to provide weapons to Ukraine and stuck to it. There was no bribery or extortion involved. I found the decision odd at the time, but didn't know what was going on with Ukraine then. There was speculation that the U.S. was considering admitting Ukraine to NATO and that enraged the Russians. I could only conclude the two events were connected.
     
    opion8d, Nov 8, 2019
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    Here is the full story of Ukraine.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 8, 2019
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    opion8d, Nov 8, 2019
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    Obama was a scardy cat who went on a world bowing tour.
     
    jay runner, Nov 8, 2019
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    I got it to work. It might be user error.
     
    Bearack, Nov 8, 2019
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    What proof is there? By all means, post it.



    As a registered democrat and someone who wouldn't vote for Trump even if you held a gun to my head, if Joe Biden did something wrong he should be investigated. The problem is, there isn't any probable cause to investigate. How do I know? Because to try and create probable cause, the AG is personally working on it at the direct request of the president. If there was evidence, an investigation would have been opened quietly by the DOJ long before now.
     
    Gdawg007, Nov 8, 2019
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    Works for me too
     
    GaJenn, Nov 8, 2019
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    It makes 100% sense. Trump planned this whole thing and is playing the long game to permanently expose the democrats.
     
    Darthcervantes, Nov 8, 2019
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it has to do with Trump impeachment so it is CURRENT. I take it you have no comment on the OP'S original post?
     
    Darthcervantes, Nov 8, 2019
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    Hall monitor..... There is one on another site I belong to. All he does it post Trump hate seeds/articles, but gets extremely mad when he is proven wrong or is not allowed to call Conservative or Libertarian members names
     
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    I think so too. I follow a lot of bipartisan sites who say the same thing
     
    GaJenn, Nov 8, 2019
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    It just proves how corrupt and fake the Democrats really are. These impeachment hearings are a joke but they are also a dire warning of just how far off the cliff they have fallen. Their lack of legislation and

    We have an election in less than 1 year. Let the voters decide who they want to lead the country instead of trying to abolish the results of the 2016 election. It makes Schiff and Pelosi look petty and small.
     
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    Worse, they want to elect Biden, who did on TAPE what they're accusing Trump of....after using foreign sources to try and frame him with Russian collusion.

    They're truly sick people.
     
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    Who was that masked man?
     
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    Works for me, the issue appears to be on your end.
     
    BuckyBadger, Nov 8, 2019
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    Pretty sure at this point the left is not trying to remove him from office. They are just trying to show how corrupt Trump actually is. Even if he isn't impeached, the public hearing will be just that and the public will know everything they need to for 2020. Yes, the dems are insane in their own way, but the RNC is just as insane for there nonstop support of Trump in everything he does.
     
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    Missing the point on purpose in the OP?

    Trump hinged the aid on them doing him a personal favor to help him in a domestic election.

    Nobody is criticizing Trump for giving them military aid. It was the conditions Trump set for that aid that's the problem.
     
    Junkieturtle, Nov 8, 2019
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    Zorro, Nov 8, 2019
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    Oh? Really.

    What LINK are you referring to?

    Maybe you could post it here, and I can see if I can get it to work.

    Maybe I had a bad connection?

    Thanks. :salute:
     
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