Donald Trump Supporter Launches 'Incredibly Violent Attack' On BBC Cameraman At El Paso Rally

Does the Trump supporter get any credit for grabbing the protestor and setting him down in a seat?

Does Trump get any credit for asking about the welfare of Skeans?

 

Coping with their fantasy reality and real reality clashing and causing a reeeeee attack lol

 

Looks to me like a MAGA grabbed the protesting MAGA and is not getting a bit of credit.

 

I think you're barking up the wrong tree by painting me with that particular brush. I've not engaged in labelling Trump as racist, white supremacist or a Nazi. Nor have I done to his supporters. If I come across a situation that proves any of those cases, I will comment upon it - but I will not make generalized statements like that.

 

No - the fact that someone is simply a Trump supporter, or wearing a MAGA hat, is not justification for being attacked.

Incitement of violence is no small thing. In fact, I do believe that Trump skated away from responsibility in his campaign when he encouraged violence and offered to pay the legal fees for anyone who 'knocked the crap' out of 'them'.

 

I didn't, at any time in my posts on this thread, suggest that Trump incited violence. As you've quoted, I suggested that someone who shoved a camera man and said 'fvck the media' might have been inspired by Trump's war with the media. I see that you want to change the direction by focusing on that 'war', but I'll stick to the post at hand, thanks.

 

Normally the press allows what they have themselves called a honeymoon period for all presidents. For Trump they went on the attack from at least, his first day of office. Trump has yet to enjoy a day free from the msm attacking him. And Democrats get angry when they are confontronted back.

 

Are you saying that the accusations of Trump and his supporters as being RACIST!, WHITE-SUPREMACIST!, NAZI!s are Fake News?

 

OK. Just being a Trump supporter does not constitute incitement, but being a Trump supporter disallows one from defending himself from those who are incited to violence against someone for being a Trump supporter.

 

It's the red hat with the logo. It makes people lose the little minds they had to begin with.

 

Obama was very civil. He didn't incite brutal beatings by his supporters.
So I don'te need to pretend.

 

Yes Obama was charismatic and charming. His supporters, not so much.

 

I noticed that since no one had to go to the hospital that this wasn't considered violent or an attack by the tRUMPers.
I guess only what one like Nicolas Cruz does will perhaps get tRUMPers to not defend violence?

Sad group they are. But whine to no end if antifa, who is not affiliated with any party about how violent the left is.
When tRUMPers get incited into violence while tRUMP encourages such behavior during speaking.

 

This isn't about tit for tat - this is about a BBC journalist being attacked. Are you suggesting that he should have been prepared for that when covering the rally? Is that going to be status quo at rallies going forward?

 

Please stop reaching. I am not attacking Trump supporters - I am commenting upon someone at a rally attacking the media, physically. If you think that is okay behavior, great. Carry on.

 

Maybe if the guy (who grabbed the Trump-Inspired Violent MAGA Hat-Wearing Thug) wasn't also wearing a MAGA Hat, he may have gotten some credit.

 

Sorry.

I thought that we were having a discussion.

I didn't mean to offend.

 

What is wrong with making America Great?

Keep in mind that Obama wanted hope and change. We were a very good country prior to Obama. We improved due to Trump.

 

What about the MAGA hat incites such hatred from the left? I haven't seen an actual reason articulated yet. I am genuinely curious. My best guess is that Democrats see it as a racist dog-whistle to whites pining for a return to America that was 90% white. While that may be true for some Trump supporters, couldn't it also express a wish to return to an era where labor had a seat at the table along with capital, where conservative values were allowed to be seen in Hollywood films and TV shows, where a single salary could support a middle class lifestyle, where the nation gathered around the same icons and was less divided, where children were expected to do better than their parents, etc...

When I think of America of today compared to America of past, I think of my family:

My parents were the children of poor white farmers in Nebraska. When my mom graduated from high school she owned a total of two dresses, both of which she made herself. She got up every morning at 4:30AM to hand milk the cows before going to school. She was an expert cook. She was an amateur nurse. She was an amateur vet. She lived in a house without electricity/plumbing and with only a pot belly stove for warmth during the winter. At night the family gathered around the stove to read, converse. do homework or play games. When neighbors fell ill, her family would bring in the crops and tend the animals for them. There was a sense of community, family and purpose. She was happy. Very happy.

That has all been shredded by an "interesting culture" that doesn't give a **** about community, family or purpose but instead obsesses over material possessions. What do you have that I don't have? What does that celebrity have? What can I buy today that I can throw away tomorrow? As if the quest for simple material possessions is a culture in and of itself.

There is a level of unhappiness in my kids generation that is truly frightening. A growing proportion are disaffected, isolated, without community and without purpose. Kids that waste away on drugs, video games and social media without leading real lives that engage with the world outside. Kids addicted to instant gratification. This is what I am seeing on the ground and it is borne out in the statistics. Suicides and depression are skyrocketing in the younger generation. What better evidence do you need of a culture dying than having a growing proportion of the young give up hope?

Compare architecture/art/literature of the past 1000 years. Why is it that the most culturally relevant achievements appear to have happened 100s of years ago? Where is the modern Shakespeare, Michelangelo, Tolstoy, Hume, Da Vinci, Bosch, Beethoven, Mozart etc... It is hard to imagine much (if any) of the architecture built today being around 500 years from now, it is disposable architecture... built for utility, not for beauty nor longevity. It reflects what we now have... material acquisition of disposable items as culture.

Our present culture was engineered by people like Earnest Calkins who famously wrote:

Well they accomplished their goal. The jury is still out as to whether that is a net positive for America.

 

When one can simply go to football games and get attacked, when fights break out at basketball games, when fights break out at concerts, how can one stop one fight at any political rally?

Actually thanks to a MAGA cap wearer, this man was forced to sit down in a seat.

 

I share both your concern & your confusion. but there are many on this forum who DO feel Trump is good for America. I am at a complete loss to understand why or how.

 

He/she was pushed lol does every schoolyard fight get characterized as incredibly violent ? Since you brought up Cruz how about Eric Clanton (bike lock guy) and James Hodgkinson( shot Steve Scaliase)? How do you prove Antifa members aren’t affiliated? Do you have their voting records?

 

At my age, who would know that i grew up almost in the stone age compared to today's children.

Mom and dad rented first. Those houses by today's standards are not very adequate. But still beat the shack Dad built for his family to survive in.



Ignore all but the shack please.

That shack had no running water. No facilities inside for a bathroom nor shower.
It was one room. In the right hand rear was what could be called a kitchen. Frankly i do not recall even a wood stove inside. It had no refrigerator. A husband and wife with 5 kids lived in it.

The land was 4 acres i was told. Summer it was so super hot. Winters were very rainy.

I never put any of my kids into a shack remotely like that. i bought for my family good homes.

 

The only violent hat I am aware of was issued to me in the Army by the JFK administration and it was made of steel.

Trump's hats are less violent than your run of the mill NFL helmet.

 

Hopefully the authorities will deal with him properly. At least no one was seriously hurt.