Donald Trump Will Hold Campaign Rally in Waco During 30th Anniversary of Branch Davidian Standoff

I specifically pointed out Trumps exact words, Think for myself made an objectively false claim, claiming Trump said something that he objectively did not. Your failure to keep up with that conversation is not my fault.

You couldn’t even begin to prove me wrong.

 

Lol…Trump goes to Waco on the anniversary of that horrible event and the left loses it. Meanwhile the left gives a career criminal who’s a drug addicted woman abuser three funerals, a moment of silence at the capital, statues, parks, and millions of dollars to his family. Oh, and they celebrate the anniversary of the day he couldn’t breathe.

 

Because Trump is promising to weaponize the government-- after his purge of it, and filling of it, with all his yes-men-- against the Left! Anyone who supports that, will be voting for dictatorship, and against democracy.

And, in your case, no doubt, LoLing, all the way.

 

That’s not true at all. You, like most Dems, are simply perceiving the worst in those you disagree with, while genuinely believing you are the good guys lol.

But unfortunately, this leftist authoritarian mindset is causing a rift in the nation that will only get worse.

 

Time for you to start laughing at your own, argumentative inadequacy, because I already proved that there existed no place that you could have done what you claim, "pointed out Trump's exact words." What post number was that? LOL.

 

I specifically did what i claimed in the posts you say I didn’t lol. You didn’t keep up with the argument. That is not my fault. I specifically pointed out Trumps exact words, and how they objectively were not what think for myself claimed. It’s literally right there.

 

Trump says this quite openly, about lifting up "enemies of the Left," to the same, protected status, he will reserve for Conservatives and Christians (somewhat ironically, as Trump is, to all appearances, neither of those two things). See the Current Events thread, "Trump to 'Dismantle Deep State' with 'Truth and Reconciliation Commission.'"

 

Yes, enemies of the left…which are most people who value freedom and liberty and not just jailing people without evidence such as the left is trying to do. Again, your perception of things is not accurate with the reality.

 

Though interesting, your post is about the Seventh Day Adventist. The Branch Davidians are a whole other animal. In fact the founder of the Davidians was excommunicated from the 7th day adventists

 

So he didn’t say good people on both sides? Or you just have to explain what he really meant?

 

Lock her up!

 

Right where?
I ask, for the last time, for you to cite a post number. This is not only the most poorly argued point, even by your own standards, but shows you to use zero capacity for foresight, to be arguing it at all. You can give excuses for the rest of the thread, for all I care, about why you are unable to give (any accurate) post numbers-- no one is going to buy them.

But there is a symbolism to be appreciated, in your futile claiming of having done something you are unable to quote or link. This mentality is what MAGA is purposely choosing, as our way of directing both our lives, and our nation: baldface denial of reality, and an embracing of the fantasy that saying something, makes it so.

 

Anyone with a moral compass knew the truth and ran with it.
Trump's first address to the nation was crystal clear, he didn't want to offend any white supremacists, racists or neo-Nazis in the crowd even though a woman was run down and killed and the tiki torch deplorables made world news.

The old stand by excuses for Trump's politically outrageous or personally reprehensible comments is he was "joking" or "sarcasm".

His racist-anti-semitic comments became/become a "stupid or "dumb" thing he said.

Threats aren't threats as long as Trump did the threatening, violence isn't violence as long as it's Trump related.

On and on and on,

 

Thanks for the heads-up.
I didn't know McCarthy became a leftie..

BTW:
The baseball bat that Trump was pointing to Alvin Braggs head was to let him know he's striking out.


"McCarthy pushes back against Trump’s calls for protests: ‘We want calmness out there’
“He’s not talking in a harmful way, and nobody should,” the House speaker said of the former president."

"The ex-president on Truth Social called for his followers to “Protest, take our nation back,” when attacking the investigation and its chief investigator Saturday.

But the top House Republican sought to smooth over Trump’s wording, in a throwback to a frequent GOP tactic during his four years in the White House, suggesting he likely meant to “educate” people about the actions by Bragg.

“I think President Trump, if you talked to him, doesn’t believe that either. I think the thing that you may misinterpret when President Trump talks and someone says that they can protest, he’s probably referring to my tweet: educate people about what’s going on. He’s not talking in a harmful way, and nobody should.”



https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/19/mccarthy-trump-protests-calmness-00087795

 

And the Democrats don't?

 

Would you like that to happen?

 

While you raise some interesting points, your mistake, IMO, may be in saying that the "Left doesn't see this as a notable tragedy." I doubt there has ever been polling on this-- though with the coming Trump rally, maybe we will see something. Barring that, we each have little to go on; though, in my case, my own feelings about Waco have some relevance, because I am, of course, a small part of the Left, to which you refer.

Both at that time, and now, I could only call the way this played out, an overly-aggressive, poorly planned, tragic bungling. Unfortunately, the ATF is somewhat known for this sort of incompetence. I think you err, in believing that the Left is ever-supporting of institutional, government authoritarianism. I would argue, that "the Left" is composed of many people, with differing opinions, which are not only not uniform, among the group, but are not, in most cases, pre-set, for the individuals. That is, I think we are more inclined to judge each case, on its own merits. Note that the Left, overall, was against the secret government surveillance, under Obama, equally to those on the Right. Yet, of course, we more greatly supported mandates, during the Covid pandemic. These are rather different situations, and it would seem a person is not applying much consideration of events, if he could have, of both, the exact same, reflexive view.

For the Waco tragedy, it should be borne in mind that Koresh is not blameless, here. As I recall, he had chosen, to go out in a fiery death, and those adults who stayed with him, I believe themselves made that choice, regrettably, for not just themselves, but for their children. Obviously, Koresh should have been apprehended, when off of the compound. I would doubt that many on the Left, would actually endorse the ATF's measures.


That is a very different thing, however, from feeling that Koresh should have been allowed to carry on, undisturbed. Is that your own view? It is also a much different thing from regarding Koresh as some kind of hero. He was not. He was a kook, and an exploiter of others. I think I recall hearing allegations of child abuse on the compound, though I wouldn't swear to that, or to its necessarily being true, if it was alleged-- but it would certainly track with what is frequently seen in cases of this sort.

So, the question is, on what you base your assessment, that those the left, do not see this event as "notable"-- which, in this case, is a very vague adjective. Would you care to clarify, exactly what you mean? I would guess, however, that you are saying that the Left does not glorify this standing up to the government, and in that contention, you would be completely correct. However, I submit that there is no good reason why anyone should glorify a man, who preferred that others should die with him, in solidifying his "legend," rather than merely surrendering himself to authorities. The idea that they could fight off the government, was no more than a delusional fantasy. Sadly, some-- which is too many-- on the Right, do not recognize this fact.

 

But what about BLM…..

 

BLM is fringe AF...lol

 

Next up, Clinton or Obama….

 

That scares you. Don't it?

 

Trump's Waco Rally
Live
MIke Lindell now..

 

David TRUMP Koresh..

 

I was living outside of Waco at the time of the Branch Davidians incident. It dominated the local news morning, noon, evening, and night. The church I attended was just three blocks away from the hospital where most of the Federal agents who were wounded went for treatment. And my pastor at that time, along with senior leaders, offered up their services to the FBI and any family that was affected, the church made food for the agents and a few other things. And on that Sunday Morning, the local newspaper, The Waco Tribune-Herald, had a front-page headline that read, "Is he the Massiah?" After reading the morning paper, I knew something was going to happen, just not that soon on the day I went to Church.

If that was not the intention, then the staff is bumbling idiots and incompetent on dates on when to hold an event in that particular city. Even 30 years later, it still resonates with the older crowd in Waco. Young ones consider it ancient history.

Under Koresh, every woman and girl was his wife, period. If you were married, your wife was his wife, and he pretty much slept with all of them who were of childbearing age, and especially enjoyed the young teenage girls. That was one of the reasons why they went in. What happened, of all the children who died, they were all fathered by David Koresh. The children that were allowed to live and go to the Federal Agents, were allowed to live. And some still have horrors on what went inside that compound that day and weeks. One thing is for sure, this was not about "freedom of religion" but about a sociopath who used religion to get what he wanted, primarily sex, drugs, and guns on an ego path.

 

Or with the "pro trump brigade" with Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Hilary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, LGBTQ, slavery, elections, electronic voting, blaming any and all immigrants for the ills of America, blaming Democrats only for debt and budget crisis even though the GOP controls the purse strings, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on.

Point is before you start having someone else to blame, look to yourselves first and foremost, clean up your act, and then get back to us.