DR. FAUCI BACKED CONTROVERSIAL WUHAN LAB WITH MILLIONS OF U.S. DOLLARS FOR RISKY CORONAVIRUS RESEARC

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  1. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    So, the guy telling you that you need to give up your rights and stay in your house is the same guy responsible for the existence of the virus in the first place. What a surprise.

    https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-b...KQse_9XsRKv8yLU5uhZsQifBznNvVLD1hXvcyyNPwP14o

    "Just last year, the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses."

    Anyone who looks at this and thinks "coincidence" is a fool. It's no wonder that Dr Fauci warned in 2017 of 'surprise outbreak' during Trump administration. Of course he did; it was no "surprise" to him, because he knew what was brewing in the labs. Last year, the rich and powerful were exposed to all as being child molesting human traffickers, as the Epstein situation unfolded; a few months later, global totalitarianism is the "new normal". All while they try to convince you that the virus is natural.

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    Do you even know what gain-of-function (GOF) research is?

    The lab group in Wuhan to which this $3.7 million was granted are researching vaccines for bat-originated coronaviruses, and for possible ways to weaken a viral strain.

    If you're trying to convince us that this virus was was released either accidentally or deliberately, this Newsweek article isn't helping you. According to intelligence experts, it is not the most likely scenario. The most likely scenario is that as usual, the virus jumped from bats to humans because it strengthened and mutated at a "wet market" where animals are kept in very close quarters. The rest of the world needs to apply pressure to China to force them to make these markets illegal. Swine flu, bird flu ... too many deadly viruses originated in those markets.
     
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    I don't think the virus origination had anything to do with bats.
     
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    Sure, it came from a Bat many miles away, not from the Labs right in the city.

    COLLUSION: U. Texas under investigation for possible ties to Wuhan biolab. We seem to be seeing this kind of thing all over the higher-ed landscape.

    The depth and breath of the CCP's penetration of the American Left is becoming more and more difficult to ignore.
     
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    Of course it did.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/summary.html

    "The SARS-CoV-2 virus is a betacoronavirus, like MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV. All three of these viruses have their origins in bats."

    Why is it that some people refuse to look things up? It took me five seconds to find that, ffs. Try to do better, Paul.
     
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    Horse pucky.

    A bat far away from what? Please clarify. Have you seen images of those wet markets?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_market

    Note that last pic with rodents crammed into cages like sardines. There is a big desire in China for exotic food, including certain types of bats. An infection within a bat community, when brought to market crammed into those cages, can easily spread to other species when they stack cages on top and next to each other. A virus can grow strong in such conditions, to the point where it jumps from animal to human. That's how we got the various strains of flu (swine and bird), SARS, and MERS (which started with camels), and that's how we got COVID-19.

    "The left" and "the right" have nothing to do with this. The involvement of academia is about science and learning, for pity's sake. How do you think we get experts on viruses?

    I'm sick of the partisanship over this disease. COVID-19 doesn't give a **** about ideology, it just wants to survive and spread to as many hosts as possible, and this one is far more contagious than any of the viruses that came before it. COVID-19 is a viscious disease.

    Instead of fixing the blame, or creating conspiracy theories, let's fix the problem by forcing China to discontinue these wet markets.
     
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    Much Much further away than the labs. You know that folks from these labs went out into the wild, collected bats and brought them right into the city. If this came from a bat, as bats aren't sold at the wet markets, of course this is the more likely mode of transmission.

    Whatever the case, the problem with lying China is what they did AFTER folks started dying. With a civilized lawful response, they could have contained the outbreak right there rather than spreading it throughout the world.

    Because of their lawless choices,
    • 3.6M are infected, with this doubling every three weeks.
    • 252k are dead, with deaths doubling every 10 days, and these are very violent deaths.
    • 2,196,210 are currently infected and 374,000 of them will die.
    It's a terrible horrible thing that lawless lying China did, they need to be held to account.

    SHODDY CRAP FROM LYING OUTLAW CHINA: Low-Quality Masks Infiltrate U.S. Coronavirus Supply: Many imported masks fall far short of N95 standards, tests show, putting workers on the front lines of battling the virus at risk.

    U.S. regulators and state officials are finding a significant number of imported N95-style masks fall short of certification standards (filters 95%), complicating the response to the coronavirus crisis and potentially putting some front-line workers at greater risk.

    Recent tests by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health found that about 60% of 67 different types of imported masks tested allowed in more tiny particles in at least one sample than U.S. standards normally permit.

    One mask that Niosh tested, sold in packaging bearing unauthorized Food and Drug Administration logos, filtered out as little as 35% of particles. Another, marked KN95, a Chinese standard similar to N95, had one sample test below 15%, far short of the 95% it advertised, Niosh said. KN95 and N95 both refer to standards that call for masks to block 95% of very small particles.

    The Niosh tests, combined with recalls and additional testing from multiple states, show that millions of substandard masks have been imported from China and other countries as the need for protective gear for workers confronting the pandemic has skyrocketed.

    They are evil vile outlaws. Taiwan, on the other hand, completely trustworthy, competent and law abiding.

    It's time for the Chinese People of Taiwan to resume their seat at The Table of Nations.
     
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    Dr. Fauci was not and is not responsible for the existence of any corona virus strain.
     
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    Exactly right.
     
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    Politically convenient conspiracy theories are convenient.
     
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    Me neither.
     
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    Probably not but how in the hell would you know?
     
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    I study viruses and stay in touch with researchers. I have a solid background in this area. Microbiology, virology, molecular biology, medicine.
     
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    We have a lawyer here too.
     
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    Cool.
     
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    if you worry about china mask, then just dont buy it, wear scarf. fyi most 3M/honeywell mask are made in china and sold in the US for years. pretty sure there are shitty factory in china making mask to take advantage of the price, and then there are factories who work with 3m to make quality mask. i mean if some small company making dubious product in US, you gonna blame all or just the company.
     
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    This isn't news. It's conspiracy theory.
     
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    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    None of which means that you know anything about Fauci's activities.
     
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    And yet I do. Try to keep up.
     
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    Nice try.

    https://osp.od.nih.gov/biotechnology/gain-of-function-research/

    "According to intelligence officials"
    Any adult should realize by now that what spooks say is what they want YOU to believe, not what they believe themselves
     
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    When you know how to read virus sequences then you understand if it's man-made or not. I can literally tell you the difference.
     
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    and any rational person will need fact and evidence in order to prove either exist or not. especially after expert in the field (doctor/virologist) said otherwise. if you belief such thing then any modern virus could be accidental release from lab. there are even ppl belief 911 is conspiracy by the Bush admin.
     
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    Just wondering who you think this would be convenient for. From where I'm sitting, this makes everyone look bad.
     
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    Yes. We Outlawed GOF research:

    In October 2014, the US government had placed a federal moratorium on gain-of-function (GOF) research – altering natural pathogens to make them more deadly and infectious – as a result of rising fears about a possible pandemic caused by an accidental or deliberate release of these genetically engineered monster germs.​

    This was in part due to lab accidents at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in July 2014 that raised questions about biosafety at US high-containment labs.​

    CDC is a typical federal agency, not terrible competent.

    As such in October 2014, because of public health concerns, the US government banned all federal funding on efforts to weaponize three viruses – influenza, Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).
    Seems like a good idea!

    In the face of a moratorium in the US, Dr Anthony Fauci – the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and currently the leading doctor in the US Coronavirus Task Force – outsourced in 2015 the GOF research to China’s Wuhan lab and licensed the lab to continue receiving US government funding.​

    Fauci’s figured that his own agency couldn’t safely carry out this research, but a Chinese laboratory could?

    President Donald Trump’s administration is investigating the $3.7 million in taxpayer money that went to the Wuhan lab, while Republican Representative Matt Gaetz called for an immediate end to NIH funding of Chinese research. Since the federal ban on GOF research has been lifted, US labs can continue creating these monster germs domestically and would no longer need to outsource to China.
    I'm not sure either is a smart idea. Fauci’s enlistment of the Wuhan lab to do research banned in the U.S. happened in 2015–during the Obama administration. If it had occurred during the Trump administration, there would be nothing else on the front pages of the Fake News New York Times and the Fake News Washington Post.
     
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    A mix of people really. Mostl the antiglobalization cause.”
     

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