Drag kids: outrage over 9 year-old drag queen and other sexualized children

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  1. yguy

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    People who think like this should be legally prohibited from getting within earshot of children.

    Neither was it the end of the world when ISIS guys started raping little girls, so I don't know what the hell your point is.
     
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    If I could be emperor I'd make it child abuse not to get your children treated for health and medical needs, is also make it abuse to force your child into bizzare religions.

    Though I find this disturbing... I'm not sure what to make of it. If I'm able to force my child to be vegan or bar them from all social activity or let them die from treatable illnesses, I don't know that we can step in on this.
     
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    The way I see this is uncharted territory. Society as a whole needs to figure out how far over we want he line.

    This may be bordering on inappropriate. It needs to be clear for the kid that there isn’t external pressure forcing this on him. But if he wants to walk down that path he should be allowed.

    One thing that should be taught to him is that some of the drag stuff is actually, inherently, mysoginistic. People need to be educated that those things aren’t the definition of femaleness. The way I see it is it’s overcompensation. It’s who they want to be. Alas, the kid should be made aware that dressing hypersexually like that is NOT the definition of what woman is.

    We’re going to see more of these stories. It’s just the nature of this beast. I don’t know where the middle ground is. What I do know is those stressing traditional stereotypes need to be quiet. It’s clear these stereotypes don’t work for everyone. We’ve only tried it for a couple thousand years. Some people are inherently different.

    I will say that sexualizing children is really pushing the envelope, and those involved need to be really careful; making sure the kid is he one that wants to go down that path. We know children are very susceptible and fragile at those ages. Irreparable harm can be done if the kid isn’t completely comfortable with these actions.
     
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    My thing is that alnost no 9 year-old boy knows what drag queens are unless they were exposed to them by someone older. We're seeing a new generation of liberal parents who find it not only appropriate, but necessary, to introduce their children to LGBT stuff at an early age. We see this with the aforementioned drag queens reading to children at public libraries. We also see it with how many children are brought to pride parades all over the nation.

    When I was 9, I didn't even know what gay meant. I hadn't hit puberty yet so I wasn't very interested in women yet either. A kid like this is clearly being led down a certain path IMO.

    I think what may seem misogynistic for normal women can actually be empowering for transgender women. You said it perfectly when you say they over compensate to be what they always wanted to be. I think this is why there are so many glamorous trans women out there. I guess drag queens follow the same pattern.

    I don't know if there is a middle ground to be found here. Both sides are pretty militant in their views.
     
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    That's a good point. Liberals will use the idea that having your son be a drag queen is in the same boat as having him be a vegan or homeschooling him.

    I knew a woman about 4 years ago who was very liberal. Her son was about 5 years old at the time and already knew what things like bisexual and transgender meant. I guess to her it was an important part of parenting to teach him that stuff, but I felt kind of bad for him in some ways.
     
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    Another weak argument claiming that all liberals think that way. They use the same argument against gun owners.

    Also, children know what gay, trans, bi is if they go to school. The only question is if you would like to be involved, or if you would rather let other kids be their only source of information.
     
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    I’m not under the impression that your history is appropriate for children. I shared the same. I thought “gay” meant happy cuz of the flintstones theme. I was ignorant and I don’t think this is right.

    I grew up and had to find out on my own that I’m not normal, sexually. It was not easy. I’m not gay but def. different, and as such I know how confusing these things can be, and most importantly I know how conversion therapy is all harm and no benefit. I digress, this is anecdote.

    I think it’s important that this kid not view any of this as sexual trauma. He’ll find his ay, but if he’s feeling he’s being forced, that could harm him for life. As such, the parents should be supportive, but careful about these things.
     
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    It figures it'd be something like that.
     
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    I really don't think 5 year-olds are discussing what it means to be bi or trans on the playground.
     
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    I think we agree more than we disagree. I'm glad you were able to figure things out, and I'm in no way suggesting that parents should block that from happening.
     
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    Agreed. I wasn’t disagreeing with you, I think we’re on the same side in this argument.

    Referencing an earlier post, people have a portion of their sexuality engrained in them. It is not conditioned and it cannot be changed. That said, while I’m glad for the acceptance and enthusiasm people seem to have for their differences, they should be careful.

    It shouldn’t be treated as a fad by the parents, as much as they’d like to be a part of it and support it. If the kid perceives sexual trauma at any point, that’s statistically linked to mental illness later on. My hopes are that the parents are aware of that and the kid dressing like that is entirely under his/her own choices and wants.
     
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    If they did when I was in kindergarten, I'm sure they still do now.
     
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    missing the point. If we make this abusive we should make it abusive to deprive a child of medical treatment.

    If we are to interfere we should interfere in the deprivation of medical treatment first.

    As for the 8 year old drag queen...I wonder how that boy's relationship will be with his parents when he is an adult.

    Kids are quite smart... that being said I likely wouldn't talk to a 5 year old about such things unless they asked questions.
     
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    When were you in kindergarten?
     
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    Early 70s. I remember the joke on the playground where you ask "Are you a *** in a cage?" When he says "No!" you point and yell "*** on the loose!!!"

    (The*** is a derogatory term for a gay male)
     
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    That sounds like middle school to me. But I guess some places are like that at an earlier age.
     
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    Kids say the darndest things! That's why I made sure my kids were comfortable talking with me about anything.
     
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    There are definitely some types who should be kept away from children. :)
     
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    On the contrary, his parents should confiscate any feminine apparel in his possession, and turn him away from the dinner table if he shows up in a dress.
     
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    Sometimes it's important to say NO to a kid. It's what these same parents would do if their child got involved with a lot of other things.
     
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    Alas, that's impossible for parents who, having no love to give, try to get it from their children.
     
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