Drill baby drill

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Remember when the left mocked and ridiculed those words? Remember when they said we can't drill our way out of this?
    Remember when they said we were running out of oil
    Now a few years later and despite eight years of an anti oil Democrat president we did drill baby drill and now the mideast has once again flared up and we barely missed a beat here with gas prices rising a measly 10 cents a gallon. If Saudi oil fields had been blown up before we did indeed "drill our way out of this" oil prices would be a hundred bucks a barrel and gas prices would be up a dollar so once again the left is left with egg on their faces.
    Now here we are again with leftist saying we can't.
    We can't win a trade war with China.
    We can't secure our border with a wall.
    If you "we can't" people would get out of the way you'd be surprised what we can do just like we did with oil. Learn from that and step aside.

    "While the total impact of the Saturday attacks remains unknown, analysts say the U.S. economy is very different than it was in the 1970s, when surging oil prices tipped the economy into recession. Oil-price shocks no longer pack the same punch, they say."
    "Since the early 2000s, U.S. energy companies have dramatically ramped up production using new drilling techniques, such as fracking. Oil production doubled between 2008 and 2018, and the U.S. is now the world's top oil producer, ahead of Saudi Arabia, according to the Energy Information Administration."

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/saudi-attack-should-have-limited-effect-on-us-2019-09-15
     
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    It would be refreshing to see just one liberal step up and say. OK so we were wrong. I won't hold my breath.
     
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    Unpossible. Obama told us it takes like 10 years to drill and complete a well. :roflol:

    Now, every lead Dem candidate for POTUS wants to ban fracking. Someone should inform them that those electricity generating plants don't work without natural gas.....that requires fracking to get out of the ground.

    Hell, they ought to just say they want to ban electricity.

    They really are clueless. The I-Mac I'm typing on came from fracking. (Plastics come from fossil fuels if you're wondering libs)
     
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    CHECK YOUR HISTORY!!!It was Obama that reauthorized the sale of U.S.CRUDE OIL to foreign countries after a 40 year ban on it because FRACKING boomed under Obama.
     
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    Do you even know what fracking is? I don't think so.:bored:
     
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    Why wouldn't I, we have loads of it destroying the landscape and environment here in northeastern Pa.!!!
     
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    You just proved you don't have a clue.
     
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    if everything is perfect with our oil supply, why do we possibly have to go to war with Iran to protect it? Inquiring minds would like to know.
     
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    How so?
     
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    Are you telling us obama was for big oil? You need to rethink what you just wrote.
     
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    'Fracking' is hydraulic fracturing of rock miles below the surface. It certainly has nothing to do with the landscape.
     
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    You saying Obama was pro fracking and pro oil? Doesn't this fly in the face of his global warming agenda and signing Paris deal? Suddenly Obama is the pro fracking pro oil president? Lol

    Obama Fracking Rule Is Struck Down by Court

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/23/...acturing-interior-department-regulations.html
     
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    If we go to war with Iran it won't be over oil.
     
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    Yes, it will be. Trump gets money for his projects from the Saudis and they get their money from oil. If the Saudi and Iran din't have oil, nobody would give a **** about the region. Any war there we're involved in is all about the oil.
     
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    Your opinion is your opinion but not one liberal in here has yet addressed the OP. Turmoil in the Mideast and our gas prices remain stable. We did indeed drill our way out of dependence on this volatile part of the world. "Drill baby drill" was a huge success even though liberals said it couldn't be done just as they now say the wall can't be built and we can't force China to capitulate with a free and fair trade deal.
     
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    Do you really think we would give a da*n if Iran lobbed a few missiles into Saudi Arabia if they didn't have oil?
     
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    Do you mean 'we Germans' since you aren't a U.S. citizen? Would you give a da*n if Iran lobbed a few missiles into Israel?
     
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    And how do they get down miles below the surface? By drilling into the landscape??? Hence destroying said landscape?
     
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    And... when we consider the wonderfulness of fossil fuels
    It appears there is more to this fuel than just “drill baby drill”
    It seems like we are forever and always getting involved in the politics of the middle east
    And we seem to do this regardless of how much oil we produce

    At some point, i thing we should be able to answer whether such interventions are collateral cost free?
    Do we keep a bigger army to deal with these interventions?
    Do our soldiers get killed in such interventions
    Do they come home with PTSD
    Do the commit suicide in alarming numbers
    Are their bodies crippled and scarred for life
    Are they imagining having “gulf war syndrome”
     
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    Josephwalker said:
    Your opinion is your opinion but not one liberal in here has yet addressed the OP. Turmoil in the Mideast and our gas prices remain stable. We did indeed drill our way out of dependence on this volatile part of the world. "Drill baby drill" was a huge success even though liberals said it couldn't be done just as they now say the wall can't be built and we can't force China to capitulate with a free and fair trade deal.
     
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    While our imports have shrunk, we are far from independent of foreign oil. Second, gas prices do not react immediately to changes in oil price. This crisis, so far, has been brief. Wait if we actually get into war with Iran and see what happens to gas prices then. The +$4 per gallon we have seen during the Iraq war will seem like a cakewalk then.
     
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    1) I have lived in the US with my American wife and two children for 17 years. I think I have the right to use "we".
    2) Iran hasn't lobbed missiles into Israel, haven't they, even though Benjamin keeps telling us that this threat is imminent?
     
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    Sadly true to some extent. Not "all" about oil, but it's definitely a piece. The 1970's-now prove that to be the case.
     
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    Imagine if the trillions spent for wars in the Middle East had been spent on alternative energy. We'd be in a good place now.

    I fully agree with your point, the FULL cost of war, both financial and personal, is rarely taken into account. That's why the likes of Trump say that going to war would be the "easy" option.
     
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