Egyptian Apartheid discriminates against Christian abductee's

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  1. DutchClogCyborg

    DutchClogCyborg New Member

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    The reason for this is simple: even though Egypt is not an Islamic state, it is rapidly Islamizing, and authorities don't dare cross Islamic sensibilities. And in Islam, a Christian's life is worth less than a Muslim's: "The indemnity for the death or injury of a woman is one-half the indemnity paid for a man. The indemnity paid for a Jew or Christian is one-third the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid for a Zoroastrian is one-fifteenth that of a Muslim." — 'Umdat al-Salik, o4.9

    That has to do with the blood money paid for a death, not kidnapping, but the principle is the same: a non-Muslim's life simply is not as important or as valuable as a Muslim's.

    "Egypt's Double Standard in Muslim and Christian Abduction Cases," by Mary Abdelmassih for AINA, August 14
    http://www.aina.org/news/20110814170536.htm
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't this be more aptly put in the religious section?
     
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    The Copts are destined to disappear into the mists of history. The Muslims of Egypt will destroy them in the fullness of time. Those who can should leave Egypt.
     
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    Trash can more like:mrgreen:
     
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    Along with other inconvenient truths like the Mughal Slaughter of 100 million Hindu's. Armenian Assyrian and Greek genocides and other events no one in the Islamic world would like to talk about?

    Lets not close our eyes for a change in a idle attempt to appease a intolerant religion.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In their culture, it's not rape if the little girl is not already married.

    Especially since by marrying her they will be converting an infidel to Islam in the process.
    (Plus, once the little girl is "married" and "converted" to Islam, it becomes seen as intolerable for her to go back, because then her original family would be leading her away from Islam)
     
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    Rape is ignored in the US until a man is running for elected office.

    Depending on how rich and powerful he is, rape and murder are shrugged off as well.
     
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    I see, once again, an attempt at diversion.
    "Look over here!" "Trump, Trump! Those Republicans!"

    You do realize that what is happening in these stories is much worse than anything Epstein did, don't you?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems like more attempt at derailment and diversion.

    Post a link to another or new thread if you want, and I'll be happy to talk about it.
     
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    because of what happens if they do

    See this thread for a better idea about that:
    Asia Bibi in Pakistan
    Any government official who tried to stand up for this non-muslim woman got killed. The government was too afraid to release her and kept her in prison for many years, trying to avoid mob violence from breaking out. They finally snuck her out of the country after they felt enough time had passed (9 years) for the violent mob to mostly forget about her.
    Her alleged crime was saying something blasphemously disrespectful about the Prophet Muhammad. (And on top of that the judges believed the two female witnesses who had accused her were likely partially lying and exaggerating about what she had said, because they had gotten into an argument with her)
    Muslim mobs were demanding her death, and even threatening death to any government official who helped her escape.
     
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    Especially if the are democrats.

    JFK, Clinton, Chapawhatever, etc.
     
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    Weinstein is a mooslim?
     
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    What's a mooslim? Is that a cow worshipper?
     
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    There are rapists among all races, ethnicities, religions, nationalities, all variations of sexualities and asexual people.

    I'm not partisan and I'm not going to play tit-for-tat with you.
     
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    Double standard????
    You source says "The kidnappers were charged with abducting a minor and on April 19 the military court sentenced five of them to life imprisonment and the sixth to 15 years."

    How on earth can you claim there is a double standard when kidnapping Christians will get you life imprisonment.
    You think it's a happy thing, getting a life sentence in some freaking Egyptian jail?

    What a fail.
     
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    Is that the only source you looked at? If so, it isn't a "thread fail".

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    But some cultures have 100 times more.

    (And don't go trying to quote the official statistics because I've explained how those are totally flawed in another thread: why the rape rate in the middle east is so 'low' . And consider that these obvious cases of rape being discussed in the opening post are not even counted as rape by the government of Pakistan)

    https://www.persecution.org/2022/01...married-45-year-old-muslim-neighbor-pakistan/

    Egyptian court refuses to return kidnapped Christian girl to family
     
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    Imagine some perverted rapist goes and kidnaps a little girl, then grooms and brainwashes her (ever heard of Stockholm syndrome?), makes her come to believe he is her "father"/caretaker, makes her sign a piece of paper saying that she is agreeing to marry him, and then the court just accepts all that, and there's nothing the family of the kidnapped girl can legally do.

    All because the rapist/molester claims the girl he abducted has some hair "down there". (How much do you want to bet these rapists are slathering Rogaine on their little underaged victims to try to make hair grow?)

    This is absurd and insane but it's going on in several Muslim countries.

    For those that naively claim that Christians are "tolerated" in Muslim countries, this is just one example of the types of things they have to put up with.
     
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    Didn't I ask you to stop responding to my post?

    You said that it was cool that little boys were raped by priests because they received settlements from the Vatican decades later.

    Now all of sudden you give a damn about somebody being violated?

    <Censoring myself but whatever you think might be in this spot is what is in this spot>
     
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    You're intentionally trying to take this off topic. All I previously said is that people who try to take very large amounts of money, from a group that should not owe them any money, are doing a deed that is even worse than the sexual assault that occurred in the first place.

    I see that you don't want to start a separate thread but continue to want to try to derail this thread.
     
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    This has been going on forever in Egypt. Girls are taken, and then they're parents are told that they converted to Islam. It was worse under Morsi, who was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and churches were destroyed and Christians attacked.

    Pres. Sisi changed all that, but his government can't change the mentality of the people, so the persecution goes on.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only nation that fully tolerated Christians in the Middle East was Syria - and maybe Iran. I'm not sure though. It's because Assad is an Alawite, a secular sect that is part of the Shia Islamic faith. I knew some Syrians who so loved the all inclusive society Assad had established that they moved back.

    Washington didn't like Assad though because he wasn't willing to pass a pipeline from Qatar, so they started their demonizing campaign and gave their support to the head choppers, even though they were killing Christians on an average of 300 a day.
     
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