Electric Cars

More trolling bovine excrement WITHOUT any credible substantiation!

 

You could just make that rumble your ringtone, and drive a 1,000HP all electric monster. 0-60 in 1.79 seconds.

Turbo schmurbo.

Embrace the change, say it with me, "Ooohhhhmmmmmm"

The future kicks ass, don't shun it.

Of course, it's in Austin.

 

What do you mean, there have been government programs for quiet a while now regarding solar energy. Maybe it's only in Texas, but I didn't think it was.

 

Are you claiming that about one third of the energy will be consumed in the generation of electricity required to operate the electric vehicle than will be required to operate the ICE? A very simple question which can be answered without the usual "bovine excrement" comments.

 

Gasoline is not the only way to power something. Hydro-electricity is a thing.

 

That was discussed earlier. Electricity is generated using numerous methods, but most electricity is generated using some kind of fuel.

 

Sounds like a great opportunity for an innovative individual to make a ton of money.

 

Another asinine STRAWMAN troll post duly ignored for OBVIOUS reasons!

 

Just a very easy question.

 

It was an asinine STRAWMAN attempt at trolling for obvious reasons.

 

Surely such an easy question can easily be answered. It is not really complicated or a trick question. The choices are pretty much "yes", "no" or "I don't know". Or you could demonstrate your extensive knowledge on the subject and elaborate.

 

No one is obligated to respond to asinine trolling posts!

 

+

What a bunch of BS

LP tanks, unless exposed to fire do not explode on their own.

The reason being, and I find it surprising you don't understand this, is they are filled with fuel and lack an oxidizer, and as such lacking an oxidizer an explosion is impossible.

As for electricity burning a house down due to as short, again more BS, branch circuits are protected by against such faults by Code, a short will either open a fuse or trip the magnetic side of a breaker, and there will be no fire, if the circuit was installed to Code.

A gas fire cannot cause a house to explode, the puddleing of LPG in a basement or a concentration of natural gas in a attic can, but once the gas is burning unless there is a BLEVE there will be no explosion.

Your comments in this post have clearly exposed how little you understand about fuel gases.

 

Type into YouTude "LPG car exploding" to see a few, even when they're driving.

Electrical fires are a common cause, even Notre dame succumbed to an electrical fire. The common cause is loose connections so arcing occurs.

And yes, the ignition of accumulated gas is the cause of house explosions.

I wonder how the military ET's (electric tanks) fair? Probably pause the war whilst they plug them in.

 

There are only two ways LPG will explode, the most common one is an accumulation of LPG and air in a confined space however it must be of the correct ratio. The lower and upper limits of flammability are the percentages of propane that must be present in an propane/air mixture. This means that between 2.15 and 9.6% of the total propane/air mixture must be propane in order for it to be combustible. If the mixture is 2% propane and 98% air, there will not be combustion

Electrical fires are commonly caused by overheated conductors in direct contact with flammable material, this is why in the U.S. we have the, The National Electrical Code, (NEC), National Fire Protection Association #70, (NFPA). If the code is adhered to, as is required in most jurisdictions', there will be no electrical fires. What is claimed to have happened at Notre Dame was improperly installed temporary wiring that was overloaded and started the fire, which by the way was a violation of the International Building Code.

Propane which is regulated under NFPA 54 the National Fuel Gas Code and NFPA 58 the Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, if those Codes are followed, it is a very safe source of energy.

The problem is where people do stupid stuff not allowed by the codes and then bad things happen and like other things in life, the fuel or power gets the blame not the fool who failed to follow the codes and do things properly.

After Hurricane Wilma I was sent to a insurance company at 900 South Federal Highway in Ft Lauderdale, their Metro-E was down, I walked around the back of the building to access the Telco, I noticed a number of business's had generators out back with extension cords leading into the business's. I also noticed a pizza parlor had a 20Kw Generac generator placed, it was connected to the NG gas meter with a garden hose, the power meter had been pulled out of the meter pan and the generator was scabbed into the load side of the pan with 3 1/0 THWN conductors, both the gas and the electric connections where gross violations of the Codes. I called a buddy of mine who was at the time the Chief Electrical Inspector for the City of Fort Lauderdale and inquired if he thought what I was seeing was up to Code, his answer was "stay there, but stay back, I will be there in 10 minutes." So I went across the street and hung out at out BellSouth's Remote Terminal watching the E-Mux reboot. About 6 minutes later I hear sirens and the fire department shows up with 2 trucks and the City's Fire Marshall, shortly after my buddy shows up.

I point at the generator and the Inspector and Marshall walk over and give it a lookover, the Marshall has one of the firemen retrieve a large aluminum wrench from the truck and they shut off the guys gas meter, the generator stops, the lights go out and the pizza oven starts cooling off, this brings the owner of the shop out back where he notices fire trucks, the Marshall and an Electrical Inspector, that's what's known as an oh crap moment, shortly after I hear another diesel truck pull up and put the air brakes on, it's Florida Power and Light.

The troubleman walks over looks at the meter pan gets back in his truck and drives it up on the sidewalk, he gets in his bucket go's up the pole and cuts down the drop wire feeding the meter, this is not good as the pizza guy is not going to be able to get his power back on until he hires a electrician and a gas fitter, who will have to pull permits and pass inspections before the business can reopen. Why? Because the inspector red tagged the business as an unsafe structure which cannot be occupied.

Codes are serious business one doesn't want to get caught severely violating them in a public location.

If the mixture is just right it can and it also depends on the type of gas involved, propane can be bad news if a home has a basement, propane is heavier then air and can pool, then all it takes is for it to reach a few inches off the floor and make contact with a pilot light of a water heater and house gets relocated.

Rumor has it the Polish Navy has solar subs, but they are having problems with them, when they submerge they quickly run out of power and have to resurface for a day or two to recharge their batteries.

 

Here's a guy and his wife driving a Tesla in -25°c weather. The car has 400km range, they drive 150km and so the car should have 250km range left. Obviously they needed the heating on, plus the windscreen warms to stay ice free. At their destination, the car displays 106km range left, not enough to get home.

So, they would have to plug in to charge. Power cuts do happen. Not very good are they?

I think EV's are good if you want nip to the sweet shop and back.

 

And they had to dress warm within a car that could have used the combustion bypass heat to keep them much more comfortable.

Notice the children in the back totally ignoring the a-holes in the front seats.

 

There is the claim that an electric motor is three times as efficient as an internal combustion engines. That ignores the fact that the electricity has to be generated. When comparison have been made on cost, they end up comparing two types of vehicles, i.e. a Corvette to a Tesla.

I thought I would try to compare by using horsepower. Two identical vehicles, except for one being electric and the other powered by internal combustion should require the same horsepower to go at a identical speed under identical conditions. The cost of gasoline in my area is about $2.50 per gallon and the cost of electricity is about $0.11 per KWH.

A modern internal combustion engine will use 0.05 gallons of gas to deliver 1 hp for one hour. The energy conversion of hp to kw is one horsepower equals .746kw. The efficiency of an electric motor is about 85%. We now have all we need to make a comparison.

The cost to deliver one hp for one hour using gasoline is 0.5 X $2.50 = $.125.

The cost to deliver one hp for one hour using an electric motor is $.11 X (.746 /.85) =$.097

So, just using cost an ICE will cost about 29% more than an electric vehicles for fuel.

A gallon of gasoline contains about 115,000 BTU or you can buy 1,000,000 BTU for 1,000,000/115000 X $2.50 equals $21.74.

1,000,000 BTU of natural gas costs $14.71.

So, it costs less to drive an electric vehicle because the fuel is less expensive.

In fact, comparing the two,

It requires 1,000,000BTU X $0.097/$14.71 equals 6594 BTU of natural gas to deliver one horsepower for one hour.

It requires .05 X 115,000 equals 5750 BTU of gasoline to deliver one horsepower for one hour.

So, in fact an ICE vehicle can travel 15% further on an equivalent number of BTU.

I am sure the price of gasoline and natural gas varies from location to location. However, what it comes down to is that the electric vehicle is not that much efficient than an ICE.