End Affirmative Action. Yes / No & Why

Call it whatever you want then. It's still an attitude of discrimination against those who look like people that practiced discrimination in the past.
Affirmative Action was very needed, but not meant to last forever.

 

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You've been outed, Renee. Give it up.

 

For someone who actually lives in the past, this is straight comedy. Damned insulting to those at the back of the bus last century, too.

 

I would speak of how the Civil Rights Movement was infected with communists who used it then, and still use it today, to sew discord and hatred in our society.

Or how Rosa Parks, that day taking a seat on the bus, was in reality only carrying out an assignment given to her by the communist cell she belonged to.

Neverminding the fact that Ms. Parks was right - being on the correct side of an issue means nothing to the left. All that matters is winning and gaining power.

Power over the government, power over the society, power over the people.

I would speak of these things, but we can't get simple minded leftists to recognize even the simplest of deceptions intended for them.

 

Go on, speak about them.

 

What would be the point?? You leftists can't see thru simple deceptions like AA or Climate Change.

If you can't see thru simple things like that, what chance would you have of understanding something as complex and subversive as Active Measures??

 

You must persevere.

 

Is that Aussie for "bang my head against the wall"??

 

Affirmative action laws are absolutely necessary if those who are currently advantaged by those laws are ever going to achieve parity with those currently disadvantaged by them. Affirmative action laws seek to establish a parity that has never been before, anywhere, ever. There is no historical reason to believe that without affirmative actions laws those currently advantaged by those laws would, or even could, achieve parity with those currently disadvantaged by those same laws.

 

It's racist and actually does more harm to those who it purports to help through mismatch.

 

And yet affirmative action laws do more harm to those that are being purported to help. Mismatch.

 

I didn't say that it can be done. I just said that It can't be done without, at least, the legal advantages of something akin to our affirmative action laws. The people now advantaged by affirmative action laws have never had the sort of parity with those disadvantaged by affirmative action laws that affirmative action laws seek to establish. In other words, affirmative actions laws do not seek to reestablish something lost; they seek to establish something that has never been before.

 

That's literally not how its defined, bricklayer. What a waste of time. A law is affirmative action to correct past wrongs. Dictionary. Well, that loss that is lost is noted by Affirmative Action.

 

How does placing persons in situations to fail help them ??

 

Affirmative action laws have nothing to do with right and wrong. They are about parity. They adjudicated according to presence or absence of parity. They are an attempt to establish something that has never been before.

 

Oh I get it, ignore me. This is literally not politics and in my Economics education, about the degradation of the efficiency of Economics which is opposed to the equality of Economics. A Communist country does still of course, have some sort of ration Economic system, that's the systematic allocation of the limited resource.

 

And they have failed miserably. After decades black and Hispanic students are more under represented at top universities today than 35 years ago.

 

And the assurance of socioeconomic parity is quantified in the Constitution where??

It can found in the Communist Manifesto. Is that where you get these notions??

Discrimination is discrimination. Period.

And BTW,

In a free society citizens are free to discriminate against anyone or anything they wish - for any reason, or no reason.

It's called freedom.

What can't happen in a free society is the government cannot by force (by law) tip the scales or discriminate in any way.

Who in heavens name teaches you leftists civics and American history??

 

Yes, totally. Since Trump entered office, it is once again legal to hit your wife and Jim Crowe is back in place. Except this time, it is 500 times worse.

Come on, Renee. Come on. Exit cuckoo-land and enter reality.

 

It doesn't.

 

Affirmative action places people in places where they will fail.

 

I am describing the goals of affirmative actions laws. I am able to entertain ideas without accepting them. I am not advocating; I am describing. Quite frankly, I find it rather enlightening that those who attempt, via affirmative actions laws, to achieve a parity with the likes of me that they have never had before, may not be able to achieve it even with legal advantages. Pathetic, in the sincerest sense of the word.

 

It attempts to achieve parity between people who have historically never had parity via a series of legal advantages and disadvantages. The only place where the parity that affirmative action laws seek has been attained to is the graveyard.

 

And it fails miserably by mismatching student capability with specific university demands. It does more harm than good. The data documented in the book “Mismatch” confirm this.