ethnic europeans UNDERREPRESENTED in Ivy League universities

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Yes, that's right: whites (descended from european ancestors) in the USA are actually underrepresented in the country's elite universities, and this has been going on for quite some time.

    Individuals who self identify as jewish, chinese, japanese, or korean in ethnicity make up less than 5 percent of the total USA population, yet make up over 50 percent of the students in the country's elite universities. Between a quarter to a third of Harvard students identify themselves as Jewish.

    Unlike Harvard, which uses racial quotas to suppress the percentage of asian students to maintain its "diversity", California universities are legally prohibited from considering race in admissions (at least directly). At the University of California Berkeley 40 percent of undergraduate students are asian, despite asians only making up 12 percent of the state's population.

    So why have we not heard anything about this? Perhaps because jews are typically incuded in the "white" category when statistics are compiled. This is much like how Pakistanis are classified as "asian" for the purpose of crime statistics in many western european countries. Placing Pakistanis in the same pool as immigrants from countries in the far eastern region of asia, who have much lower crime rates, masks the shocking statistics from this particular ethnicity.
     
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    No wonder the non whites consistently shine .They actively try to improve themselves as groups in a way badly educated young Americans consistently do not .
    Why would Western Europeans want to go to University in America ?
    Their aim is to raise self standards . Not to drop them !!
     
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    Well, you have to realize that Asians and Jews value achievement. They'll do what it takes to get in. When an Asian kid gets out of school, he doesn't hang out, play video games, or anything like that. He goes to 3+ hours of tutoring on top of doing his school-assigned homework. Those tutoring sessions usually give homework themselves, which the Asian students do when not attending their regular school, attending tutoring sessions, doing their school assigned homework, etc. That's why Asian kids are in those top spots in top colleges -- while White kids are playing Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto, their kids are working their asses off for those spots. That's why Asian kids make up over half of the engineering schools -- they're working hard to be there.
     
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    I can't imagine who cares. If you do, then send some more white europeans to ivy league schools.
     
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    Why do you see a need to punish White Europeans ?
     
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    Asian Americans are excluded from Affirmative Action in college admissions but they still make up 21% of Harvard students and the overrepresentation of Jewish and Asian students in elite colleges is purely based on merits.
     
  7. Anders Hoveland

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    or ability

    It just shows that different levels of success between different racial groups does not automatically imply discrimination, like so many liberals assume.
    Obviously different ethnic groups do not have the same drive or work performance, and this will affect the statistics.
     
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    Ehm you do know that ethnic Europeans can also be black right ?
    Also Pakistan is indeed in Asia.
     
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    Your assumptions are correct. Just being told that the ethnic Anglos are the superior people does not make them realy the superior people when they are competing in the real world for real intelect and productive workers.

    You must understand, that forigen students pay more than 2x the tuition and room and board. So that is the bottom line. Money drives universities. Plus, there are the owners who do not want competition from the younger good looking anglo mingling in their faculty break rooms.

    You must also understand that once upon a time the Anglo from england did rule and dominate every aspect of the colonized USA. However, times have changed, in the 1920s the USA has a mass migration of jewish people, and today, the jewish people own the USA. They own and run the Unions, the universites, they sit on the board of directors in almost every corporation and bank of the USA, they tell you what to eat, what is fad, and who to like in politics via their monopoly of media entertainment, and broadcasting, they also run all the ads and sit on all the courts of any pwoer. The jewish own you and the USA. So, if you still think the colonialist culture of anglo still exist you are behind the times.

    Sure, there are a few exclusive clubs you can join, just so you can carry on the tradition of thinking Anglos still own and run the USA. But that is the only bone the jewish will throw at the Anglos to keep them happy. Just like in USA public schools where they brainwash americans to think they are better than the rest of the world.

    Times have changed, do some thinking, observation and investigating, Don't let the media brainwash you.
     
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    Dartmouth College in the Ivy League started out as a Native American school. No doubt that this thread's OP is seriously disheartened at the news that so few Native Americans are in the school today.
     
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    I dont care whether it is my own race that is underrepresented or not, there should be no racist affirmative action. If jews and asians achieved this on their own merit, then good for them. It is an example worthy of following.
     
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    YOu need to understand economics to understand Universities. Reason they take in more non whites is for the money. They get tax breaks, and can charge higher tuition rates for forigeners. It's all about the cash flow and who will give them more money. Plus, most of those Asians are smarter and more proficient than whites when it comes to woking the labs and sciences where the major part of their grants comes from. And those jewish are well connected to elite players and payers who run the banking industry, entertainment industry, and news media. With that kind of influence, you want a jewish on your team. Let's face it, what does the common white person have to offer in this global economy?
     
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    Honkey.
     
  14. Mr_Truth

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    Proof?
     
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    Proof is not heresay. Best to do your own research and investigation to get the real deal. Don't beleive all the 5 word seantances and simple minded idologies that are going around. Look at creditable evidence. Best to take a class in experimental research at a higher level to understand real data vs BS heresay propaganda.

    Knowing the difference between real objective and collective data vs idology and opinion is critical to being a smart person,.
     
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    Racial discrimination flourishing at the University of California
    April 15, 2008

    The new University of California admissions statistic are now out, and UCLA is pleased as punch to announce that the "holistic" system it devised to admit more blacks and Hispanics (and, correspondingly, fewer Asians and whites) actually admitted more blacks and Hispanics and fewer Asians and whites.
    http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-admissions-data-show-high-48543.aspx

    The University of California system as a whole released a truck load of data, including the number of admits by ethnicity.
    http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/fall_2008_admissions_table_1.pdf

    Unless I missed it, however, no data was released revealing the ratio of admits to applications by race and ethnicity. That is, from this massive data dump it is still impossible to compare (unless I missed it, in which case someone will quickly set me straight) the percentage of white or Asian applicants who were offered admission to the percentage of black or Hispanic applicants who were offered admission. I wonder why?

    Nevertheless, the information contained in this data is sufficient to dispel a number of myths. For example, take a look at this chart showing the freshman admits at each campus of the university system from Fall 1997 (the last class admitted under the racially preferential system barred, in theory, by Prop. 209) through the class just admitted for Fall 2008.
    http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/fall_2008_admissions_table_4.pdf

    It reveals, contrary to what supporters of race preferences argue in each state where they are threatened with extinction by civil rights initiatives, that the number and proportion of "underrepresented minorities" is greater now than it was in 1997 at seven of the nine campuses of the university system (not counting Merced, which did not exist in 1997). At UCLA, along with Berkeley one of the two most selective, the Fall 2008 proportion of "underrepresented minorities" is 19.4%, compared with 21.2% in 1997. At un-holistic Berkeley, the Fall 2008 proportion is 17.7%, compared to 25.2% in 1997.

    Now take a look at this chart ( http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/fall_2008_admissions_table_1.pdf ) showing the freshman admits by race and ethnicity for the system as a whole. It may have the most surprising data of all. Again comparing 1997, the last classes admitted under preferential admissions, with Fall 2008, we find the following:
    * the proportion of white admits fell from 40.8% to 34.4%
    * the proportion of Asian admits rose from 33% to 34%
    * the proportion of URM admits rose from 18.6% to 25.1%.

    In fact, while whites make up 43% of the California population, only 34.4% of the entering freshmen in the University of California system next fall are white. Seems to put a big hole in the notion that whites are somehow "overrrepresented".
     
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    America is not being taken over by Asians, Indians, and Pakistani's. They've long been contributors to our nations intellectual elite. They come here to get a good education because American education is a brand name. This may change in the future.
     

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