EU's Rhetoric

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    It seems like there's a plan, but no one says it out loud, though the younger generation want it.
    The European plan of super-nation.
     
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    That is inevitable. The EU is designed like the Confederate States of America. There are only two possible outcomes. Either it falls apart or they have to unify into one country.
     
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    The founders and masterminds of the EU always had this plan and it was openly communicated (Roman Treaty, 1957). You have to be british to be surprised.
     
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    The only thing that surprised us is how easily our politicians got bought.
     
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    Well how do we stop this?
     
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    World war usually.
     
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    The Brits did something to stop this. So did the Italians. The French was never going to, and neither will the Germans.

    Looking forward to the election in Norway though, the EU opposition is at an all time high here now.
     
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    What an irony that would be after the simpletons among us wiser ones have been constantly spouting that the main up-side of the EU is to ensure there will be no future wars in Europe.
     
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    There's no need to stop it. Only a united Europe is able to shape the future in a positive way. The EU will adjust and evolve, without the british brake we will be able to address several delayed projects.
     
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    Of course there's a need; NATO obligations aren't being met, democracy doesn't exist, and the world bank has yet to sanction Germany for the crisis in the Euro zone.
     
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    It was never a good idea to make Europe work for Germany.
     
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    USE?

    Perhpas not. The reason is very simple really - the USA was built from the insie out and the USE have to be built from the outside in. Don't know if this is possible, even on theory.
     
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    It's almost like they're living in a different plantet. Did you know that patriotism is taboo in Germany and not felt in Belgian? - It's true.
    These people wish they were American or Italian and the only way to make them happy is the USE since they're stuck in Europe.
     
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    That's not an EU matter.

    That's the british yellow press opinion.

    World Bank? Nothing to do with the EU and the Euro crisis.

    Just have a look at the Target balance of the ECB, rather Germany is working for Europe.
     
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    Nonsense
     
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    You know as well as I do that the public doesn't vote for the President of the EU and that the EU is where politicians go when their own countries are fed up with them.
     
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    Now let's look at the forced open borders and shared currency in different economies and let's remember that the EU is not the USE.
     
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    The EU are thinking like the USE is their end goal to take on the USA.
    • NATO suffers when EU members don't live up to their obligations wasting resources of time and money for an EU army because NATO does not see the money that goes to pay for these meetings to talk about an EU armed force.
    • NATO won't see the money from members in the EU that is otherwise spending it on an EU armed force if one was formed.
    • Since they've signed up to NATO, since they're liberated, they should pay, but they're falling short talking about an EU armed force, playing Beethoven. - That's like playing your favourite Metallica song in 200 years time and saying "that's my anthem now". It makes my skin crawl... Like; What did Beethoven ever do to you?
     
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    It's the world letting Germany have free reign.

    Look at Greece.
     
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    Germany now feel like the Greek owe them something..

    Which is in the face of the Lisbon Treaty.
     
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    Sanctions must be applied, Britain like Germany must abide by the treaty if it's to remain 'legal'. But Germany can be like PRC (People's Republic of China) when interpreting the law, putting their EU survival first with out regard to those outside of Germany in the EU. It's blindly keeping its single currency.
     
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    http://greece.greekreporter.com/201...rerequisites-to-close-bailout-program-review/
    Should be null and void according to Article 125 of the Lisbon Treaty that Germany went ahead with breaking against the EMF.
    Why should Greece have to pay, why not make it null and void and make Germany explain itself?

    It seems like the European plan for unification against the American globalism is breaking laws making Greece suffer when Germany feels like Greece owe them something, something isn't right; It's because that violation happened.

    All those dues that Germany feel it's owed, isn't valid, no matter how much it's felt; but no one says it.
     
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    It's not a case of being ungrateful.
    It's not a case of 'Greece never asked for the money'
    It's a case of 'Germany were told not to lend it'.
    Article 125.
     
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    Germany agreed not to lend it when Germany signed the Lisbon Treaty.
     
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