Evilness of Americans

unrelated to the thread but I love the signature. truth in those words.

 

The KKK was created by the government with public support?

Really, most of the items on your list weren't done by the government or weren't 'evil.' Bad, sure, but the existence of Guantanamo isn't evil, nor was Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan evil. Some of these you could easily show to be 'dumb moves,' but evil? That's a whole different bar I doubt you can prove.

Oh, and Hiroshima - not evil, but a calculated choice. The Japanese, largely due to traditions (Bushido) wouldn't surrender, and a land assault would have cost hundreds of thousands of soldiers on each side, and the cost to civilian life would have been over 200,000. And you think that would have been good?

There are lots of things they don't tell you in history class. Like how a single Indian attack killed 15% of New England colonists, or how Indian attacks plagued the early Dutch colonies. I'll bet you didn't hear about powhatan's war, or King phillip's war. Oh, and uh, half the stuff on your list was covered in both my high school and college courses, some of them covered in grammar school. Not really stuff you don't hear about in history class.

 

Matthew 6:1-34
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Luke 14:11
For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.
Romans 12:17-21
Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

 

Please tell me what positive contribution can atone for the deaths the US government is responsible for all over the world.

I agree the vast majority are good people, just like any other nation. But they do all share some of the blame since they live in a democracy not an oppressed nation. Also, there are too many individuals who lend their support behind these criminal actions and are more to blame for it.

 

NFD no one ever fought a war without any collateral damage it comes with the territory. Governments suck. Unfortunately humanity tends in general to be a nasty peice of work that requires some government to keep them from routinely screwing each other over in one manner or the other.
Governments run countrys. The people running those governments try to do what they believe is in the country's best interests. But since human beings aren't omniscent or omnipresent they tend to screw up time to time and when governments, whose primary tools are a hammer, a piece of drill steel, and a (*)(*)(*)(*) load of weapons people usually get hurt, not infrequently the very people they were trying to help.

 

War Games (1983)
Joshua: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?

 

There are time however when the only other choice is surrender...

 

Depending on if you refer to "starting" as being the first people to show up and start whipping a** ... I would have to agree.
But in that case I think you could also say that it was your dad's fault when he beat your a** for stealing his car.

 

Its easy to look at America as the Great Evil in the world just as its easy for us to look at Imperialist Japan, Nazi Germany, Stalinist USSR, because we are the big powerful empire in the world. Truth be told the only Party that has been involved in all of our governments crimes is now known as the Democratic party a direct spawn of the Anti-Federalists and Democratic-Republican party.

America has lead the path in nuclear holocost, eugenics, racial caste systems, instalations of hostile government etc in the history of the world because quit frankly were an empire with a social hierarchy and elitest nationalism. We are not that different from any other major power in history, its just harder for people to look in the mirror. Most citizens dont want to know about these things and if they do they want to justify it.

People aren't evil, they just act in their nature.

 

I regret that I must agree, the USA ain't all the chest thumpers make it out to be. Founded on slavery and genocide. Constantly warring to take resources for it's corporate capitalists (ain't America great? Your major corporations can obtain their resources and new markets and make the taxpayers pay for, fight and die for them) It's one thing after another.

Americans are all too willing to screw each other over to make a buck. That's always been the case.

We just cannot seem to overcome our lust for material goods and gold at the expense of everything and everyone else.

And we justify our greed and hate under the guide of "personal responsibility", but then we only expect personal responsibility from the lower classes.

Oh...and our collective hypocrisy is simply stunning.

Sure...we have some good things going for us...but our people aint one of them.

 

Its all a matter of perspective I guess. Atonement is not something America is looking for, but it has advanced the welfare and upgraded the standard of living of hundreds of millions if not billions. It has provided cash, skills and technology to the world. It has given the world a "coke'.

 

Lose corporations and you love a great majority of the evil you're seeking to get rid of.

 

Corporations are what makes this nation tick (economically speaking). What you might be getting confused about is this crony Corporatism that we're getting with obummer getting in bed with such giants like General Electric and General Motors--not to mention his wasteful spending of our tax monies on failed green energy companies like Sylyndra etc. We wouldn't even have a nation here if it weren't for our corporations and their millions of employees helping to build our economy.

 

Quote:"Yep you are going to hell if you don't receive and invite to heaven from God. It isn't my job to send you to hell only to inform you that the possiblity exists once and once only. To inform someone of their need for repentance once is an act of love more than once is hectoring. Please note this is an entirely different take than Islam or any other world religion currently extant. As a child of God I am utterly free to do what I wish, but as I child of God I am also bound by love to avoid certain activites that could bring potential harm upon others. According to luke I am permitted Self defense and can defend others as need be but I am not permitted Armed rebellion against the governing authorities." garyd


Luke 6:27-36
But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

2 Peter 2:1-22
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; ...

Matthew 15:7-9
You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

Your book, not mine

 

Actually, that happened at Saipan, not Okinawa. However, it was the horrors of Okinawa that helped lead to the decision to use the bombs.

The Battle of Okinawa, almost 3 months long. Over 84,000 of the 185,000 man invasion force was killed or wounded. Over 95,000 of the 120,000 man defending force killed, in addition to over 100,000 civilian deaths. The Japanese soldiers would kill the civilians themselves rather then let them surrender, or use them as human shields in their attacks against the Allies.

And the mainland would have been an even worse repeat of that battle.

Yes, context is everything. And anybody who calls Hiroshima an atrocity proves they know nothing of Bushido.

 

1 Peter 2:16
Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God.

1 John 1:6
If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.

Romans 16:18
For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.

Matthew 6:24
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

Man! This is so easy! It's in the Book!

 

Errr, legos are from Denmark. So you can't blame that on us.

 

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Truth.

 

And this has also long been a part of our mindset. Just look at Japan, we fought one of the most vicious wars in history against them, and then spent a lot of money and work rebuilding them. We returned all the land captured, and are now strong allies.

We fought China in a bloody war, then turned right around and helped them against the Japanese. We pull down Iraq and Afghanistan, then help them each rebuild taking nothing in return.

Even in our first real wars as a nation, we went in, fought, then went home, having no interest in gaining more territory or controlling puppet governments. Simply because we refused to follow the European tradition of paying pirates to get hostages back.

By and large, we are a merchant nation. Trade with us, and we are happy. Do not trade and we largely do not care, just do not interfere with our trade and we are fine.

If you look at almost all of our conflicts, almost all involve us or one of our allies being attacked. However, once attacked we generally enter the conflict with both feet and want it over and done with as fast as possible.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). The worst evil the federal government has ever done was done with ZERO GOP votes, not even the disgusting RINOS.

MessiahCare was shoved out of the Senate, in violation of the Originations Clause, on a straight party line vote, including the vote of Al Franken, RAT, who stole an election with the collusion of criminal judges. It was passed in the House by that Nancy Pelosi (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), who said we couldn't see what's in it if it wasn't passed, a clear violation of every principle of democracy.

And then it was signed into "law" by a pretender who's taken every effort to hide his felonious past.

Last time the Mayor checked, the United States was dragged into WWII by Japan, and no evils were committed at Hiroshima, just war.

Ah, that old RAT spread the blame game. The United States would not have gotten militarily involved in Vietnam except....Lyndon Johnson, RAT, LIED about events in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Really? The GOP is responsible for the slavery that the DemocRATs fought a war to protect? Damn, you're an ignorant (*)(*)(*)(*), aren't you? The GOP was formed by....NORTHERN ABOLITIONISTS.

Invented by the DemocRATS. Woodrow Wilson was so impressed with the KKK that the first ever movie shown in the White House was "Birth of a Nation", celebrating the DemocRATs creation of the KKK.

Last time the Mayor checked, Trashcanistan attacked the United States on September 11, 2001. As a general rule in history, the aggressor, ie, the ones that kill 3000 Americans by stealing airplanes, is the side that starts the war. Let's guess, you're now going to pretend that Obama sin Laden wasn't appointed to be the Taliban's "Commander in Chief" of all Trashcanistan's armed forces, right? That happened in August, 2001.

You finally got one right. It was a bi-partisan effort in which some RATS voted for it before they voted against it.

Yeah, both parties have far too many Stupids. How else could Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, AND Obama get nominated, and how could McStain and Dole and Romney get nominated, if there weren't large numbers of stupid leftist children in both parties?

A necessary federal agency corrupted by the most corrupt "president" in history, King Obama, Fascist and Traitor.

Re-authorized by the most corrupt president in US history, King Obama, Fascist and Traitor.

What's wrong with wet towels laid on someone's face? It's how we found Obama sin Laden.

Yeah, the United States decided not to give up it's territory to the God Castro just because he was busy murdering and enslaving Cubans, especially the black ones.

 

Well, other then the fact that we had been involved militarily in Vietnam since the Eisenhauer Administration. In fact, President Truman considered sending in US troops to aid the French when they were still involved, but thankfully his military talked him out of that boneheaded idea.

I actually blame all of the mess of Vietnam on President Truman. He should have told the French to stay out after the war ended, and then done like we did with the Philippines, set up a transition government and eased them into self-rule. But for reasons of diplomacy (after being beat the French needed a morale booster), he backed them and it back-fired against all involved.

And forever poisened Uncle Ho against the US, who he once thought of as true friends.

 

Corporate cronyism coming from a republican. what a joke.
GE? you mean them not paying any taxes because of the corporate tax breaks given by republicans and their refusal to tax off shore profit?
GM? you mean the cornerstone of the american manufacturing sector, that has a market cap of $45B, and made $1billion in the first quarter?
Solyndra et.al.? you mean the company that illegal chinese dumping destroyed? No return on that money, but plenty on others including Tesla AND enabling the US solar industry to defend itself.

Corporations are typically postitive, unless they are free of oversight and regulation, in which case they are even more heartless and cruel than "person" and as an added bonus, they can't accure any "personal liability" thanks to republicans.

 

Wow, you haven't been following politics too closely..now have you? Its the Republicans who are against heavy oversight, taxes and regulations. The reason(s) why corporations may do business overseas is simply to escape the heavy tax and regulation hand of Obama. Again, the only time corporations can be rightfully blamed for anything is when they get into Obama's back crony pocket, or go even further by getting in bed with the guy.

 

Yeah, besides the fact that there's a huge difference between a handful of military advisors, and Johnson getting 50,000 Americans killed, your point was tremendously valid.

The Mayor blames the "Progressives" and their foolish idea that the United States is supposed to play some role in directing the course of nations. The Constitution nowhere contains that concept.

He was a commie, and commies ALWAYS bite the hands, and arms, and feet, and legs, and buttocks of those that help them, when they're not busy murdering their own people.

 

No, they mean GE, the company that prevented it's subsidiary, NBC from airing the Juanita Broaderick interview, the woman Clinton raped. You know, back when the First Black President had been impeached for ... being a sexual pervert, committing perjury to cover up his crimes, and abusing the powers of the Executive Branch in the cover up. The same GE that was raking in billions of dollars of defense funds and didn't want to mess it up, so it covered for a rapist.

That GE.

No, they mean the GM that was stolen from it's bond holders by an illegal abrogation of civil bankruptcy laws so King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, could pay off his goonion supporters in an act of fascist cronyism. The GM that tried to market an all-electric flub-a-dub runabout and failed.

No, he must have been referring to the Solyndra that was run by big DemocRAT donors that never showed a promise of succeeding, let alone a promise of a profit, because it was never intended to do anything but funnel taxpayer dollars back into DemocRAT coffers. And you don't have to pretend Solyndra is the only such, there are many many more, just like it.

What's your position on the EPA's refusal to prosecute wind-turbine generator operators for slaughtering hundreds of thousands of birds, many of them no longer endangered, but dead, while it assesses HUMONGOUS FINES on oil companies for the deaths of a mere handful of birds stupid enough to drink polluted water? Your position is that, of course, you love King Obama, your Big Brother.

Ain't no corporation in the US free of "oversight".

Not a one. Especially not any that dared to put the word "Patriot" in their 501(c) application.