Ex-Judge Roy Moore Files Supreme Court Brief to Urge End to Marriage Equality

Their intent to do anything is a pipe dream. the best they could ever hope for is protections for business to refuse to provide services for same sex weddings.

 

says the party that elected as President a serial adulterer

 

You must have missed recent comments from Thomas and Alito.

Currently in the pipeline: Adoption, parental rights for surrogacy and public accommodation
Coming through the courts: Healthcare and social security

I don’t see them ending same sex unions, but they will make us second class citizens.

And you voted for it. Remember that.

 

I don't really care much about their comments.

There shouldn't be rulings on this? Without context I have no idea what you're talking about.

could I hope they abolish Obamacare that was a disaster. And I'm not sure I support social security

How?

So I voted for possibly some rulings on adoption and surrogacy for some reason, the abolishment of the disastrous Obamacare and possibly the disastrous social security, and for some reason your fear that you will be a second class citizen?

All except for the last part yeah I know I meant to.

Donald Trump was the most pro-gay President we ever had. Nobody else did anything.

 

Not surprising

Adoption is whether or not state funded adoption agencies can deny same sex couples from adoption

Parental rights are if same sex couples will be treated like heterosexual couples where paternity is automatically granted when there is a surrogate involved

Public accommodation is if business (and possibly government agencies) can deny services because of orientation

So you support a same sex couple not being able to have the same rights as a heterosexual couple? SCOTUS is not hearing to dismantle social security or shared healthcare benefits but if it can be denied only to same sex couples.

I don’t understand how you do not comprehend the changes above would devalue the protections of same sex marriage...

You don’t even know what cases the evangelical organizations are rapidly pushing to the new right wing SCOTUS, why should I expect you to suddenly be informed?

I hope you feel what you voted for then.

Is that why his Vice President was completely anti-gay and his SCOTUS pick likely much more so?

 

You don't have the right to adopt and you shouldn't.

There can't be if both people in the relationship are female there is no paternity there. This is not an issue of Rights it's an issue of biology. That doesn't mean they can't be good parents.

private businesses should be allowed to government agencies shouldn't. You don't have a right to someone else's labor.

this is why you need to be specific. It can be denied for multiple reasons.

I don't know what changes you're talking about. you don't have the right to adopt children you never have had the right to adopt children and I don't think you should have the right to adopt children. adoption should be in the child's best interest not in yours not in the adoption agency.

Paternity can never be assumed in a relationship with just two women cuz there is no paternal parent paternal means father a woman cannot be a father.

I'm aware of the handrailing and squealing but that amounts to nothing

I voted for the most pro LGBT president to ever hold the office you get to feel it, and you still complain because of ideological community pressures to think a certain way.

His pro LGBT actions that you refuse to know about and I'm not surprised you're not informed, far outweigh his vice presidential pick.

That's probably one of the dumbest comments you've ever made.

Donald Trump had an initiative to decriminalize homosexuality around the world none of your precious little Democrats have ever attempted to do that. In fact they've apologized for cultures that slay gay people for being gay.

He's done more to fight the AIDS epidemic than any of your precious little Democrats have ever attempted to do.

The Trump administration helped to cover 200,000 people for HIV preventative medicines at no cost no Democrat has ever done that.

I take pride in the fact that I have voted for him twice I voted to eliminate the criminalization of homosexuality worldwide you voted against it.

You didn't even know. I hope you don't feel the effect of your reckless voting.

 

If I do not have the “right” to donate then my tax dollars shouldn’t go towards it.

That isn’t the case with opposite sex couples that automatically are given parental rights when using a surrogate.

Government workers would be allowed. That homosexuals would be one of the only classes in America that can be denied services should give one pause, that you don’t care says worlds.

Insurance and social security cannot be denied to any other married couple.

It is being decided solely by the adoption agencies which are funded by my taxpayer dollars.

How many nations moved to decriminalize homosexuality in other nations? As for the prep, that would have been covered under virtually any national healthcare program.

As for him being “pro-gay” —
Opposition to the Equality Act
Appointed anti-LGBTQ judges
Supported employment discrimination against LGBTQ people
Rolled back Obama-era non-discrimination protections
Issued rule to license discrimination
Kicked people living with HIV out of the military because of their status
Undermine Section 1557 Rule
Created a Religious Discrimination Division
Proposed cutting over $1.35 billion from PEPFAR budget
Suggested it is acceptable for schools to discriminate against LGBTQ students while accepting tax-payer funds
Eliminated language protecting LGBTQ children participating in the 4-H program
Allowed emergency shelters to deny access to transgender and gender nonconforming people
Allowed foster care programs to discriminate while accepting tax-payer funds
Refused visas to partners of diplomats
Changed rules to deny surrogate born children citizenship
Refusing LGBTQ asylum seekers fleeing violence
Refused to condemn attacks on LGBTQ people in Chechnya

The worst though, Barrett
I am glad you take pride in her nomination, I am also glad your narrative was crushed at the polls.

 

Tax dollars are not a donation they are taken from you whether you think it's right or not. Welcome to conservatism. People who don't believe in abortion have their tax dollars taken form them to pay for that. Some people don't support it because they feel it's baby murder. If you get to pick and choose what your tax dollars go to so should everyone else.

and in what world should you have the right to adopt a kid? That's a right to another person. you should never have that right.

will you consume paternity when there's a paternal parent involved you can't when there's not.

That being said I think this type of language is rather old and pointless. If a person adopts or has a surrogate child they should be considered the child's parents legally.

would be allowed according to what this is all just speculation.

sure it can.

adoption agencies are typically charities. And they consist of people who work for the good of the child. That's how they should operate. Let's not forget children are people not commodities. further there can be adoption agencies that specialize in placing children with gay couples there's nothing wrong with that.

I'm not sure but even if it's zero it doesn't take away from the fact that Donald Trump was the only president ever to try. Barack Obama didn't George Bush didn't Bill Clinton didn't and I seriously doubt Biden will. These people aren't your friends.

yet Donald Trump didn't need such a thing he's that good.

it seems like all he's really done that you would consider anti LGBT is mostly anti big government which I support.

Barrett is a constitutionalist that's everyone's right appointing her was the best thing he ever did. And this fiasco of an election it did not crush anything.

Donald Trump received more votes than any other Republican in history. It's more likely that there was a lot of dishonest practices.

 

Where and when have taxes paid for abortions?

There is a law against it..

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood#:~:text=Its combined annual revenue is,funding such as Medicaid reimbursements.


"including approximately $530 million in government funding such as Medicaid reimbursements"

 

It doesn't go for abortions per the Hyde Act...



But if it did GOOD !!

 

Fair enough we don't decide where our taxes go and that was my point.

 

Yes, but in this case the law prevents taxes from going for abortion....somebody decided on that primitive idea...

 

I guess the longest troops that pushed for that have enough social influence.

 

The point wasn’t deciding where your taxes go, it was that someone’s taxes are going to fund programs that they are barred from.

But you knew that.

 

So if he does something that supports your narrative you highlight it but if it totally dismantles your agenda is is just “big government” and thus not his fault. Desperate.

Barrett is a religious partisan hack that didn’t even have any of the typical credentials for the position
trumpism was absolutely crushed. Almost 90 million Americans rejected his agenda

Yeh yeh, unsubstantiated voter fraud was definitely the culprit. Delusion

 

If we have state-recognized marriages at all, we can't forbid them to some citizens on religious grounds.

 

Lots of people's taxes go to fund programs they are barred from

 

no when the government tries to act like my mommy that's big government.

yeah I remember hearing all the reading about her religion. look it doesn't matter anybody Trump would have appointed would have been the absolute worst in your opinion remember kavanaugh?

yeah I'm sure all 90 million of those people were alive at the time they voted and are real.

It makes more sense than Biden getting the most votes in all of our history.

The idea that people like biden that much is far more delusional.

 

False, I had only a few issues with Kevanaugh and almost zero with Gorsuch — although I will likely disagree with their rulings their qualifications are there and their reasonings, for the most part, are sound. That isn’t true with barrett.

Try again. Your crystal ball still seems to — still — be faulty

Would you like a link to the conspiracy section so you can rant there?

Oh you think people voted for Biden because they liked him? He lost the primary nomination twice. He won because trump and his cult are the anthesis to American values. We voted like we did because we literally had no other option, which is another reason I support ranked choice voting.

 

Such as?
To head off your strained excuses, barred means unable to participate regardless of their position.

 

Such as? Cute sources.

 

So what do you know about Barrett besides with the news media told you?

no I think there was record turnout because they just hated Trump so much cuz that makes sense. And also Republicans won in everything else.

No, he "won" because there were voting shenanigans.

 

Welfare most the people can't receive welfare they make too much money.

 

most of the things you pay taxes for. The source you know that money they take out of your paycheck and then don't give back to you that's the source.