EXCLUSIVE: Fauci-Funded Experiment Killed Dozens Of Puppies Using Taxpayer Money

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes .. the NIH did fund gain of function at Wuhan - Fauci lied
    NIH acknowledges US funded gain-of-function at Wuhan lab, despite Fauci’s denials
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ni...-of-function-wuhan-lab-despite-faucis-denials

    but we didn't need the NIH to admit this .. anyone who read what kind of research was going on can see that this was goblins at work.

    and he has a massive conflict of interest.
     
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    Thanks for that. The letter doesn't actually say that research took place in China. The Fox article says so, but the letter doesn't. I have read elsewhere that the research took place in Morocco, not in China.

    Can you prove that specific research took place in China?

    And what is Fauci's conflict of interest?
     
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    Actually, the NIH is the one that makes universities comply by have ACU committees. Because if the university does not comply with the NIH ACU guidelines, they will use NIH funding.

    Here are the NIH guidelines: https://olaw.nih.gov/policies-laws/phs-policy.htm

    EVERY grant proposal that involves animal research has a section that describes the research, the protocols used for humane treatment of animals, how animal use is minimized, and why the research cannot be done without using animals. This is standard procedure, but I am not surprised that the Fauci haters know nothing about it, so they can spout their "Fauci is the devil" garbage.
     
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    The hundreds of Americans left behind in Afghanistan did so of their on volition, they had ample time to get out and failed to take advantage of it.
     
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    Those poor "dumb animals", we deem them "dumb animals" because they cannot speak....I prefer to think they are "dumb" because they can be taught to trust humans....AND YOU CAN'T GET ANY DAMN "DUMBER" THAN THAT!!! :no:
     
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    :roflol:

    Totally...:bored:

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    What part of "Wuhan Lab" are you not able to figure out ?
    https://www.wionews.com/world/coron...gain-of-function-research-in-wuhan-lab-423010

    If you can't figure out what the conflict of interest is .. -- the guy who funded the reasearch is the spokesperson - I can't help you.
     
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    You know… You’re right. I haven’t read the actual release of the NIH but if that’s the case then you’re likely right.
     
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    The letter from NIH doesn’t actually refer to Wuhan, but it seems that is where the research took place.

    However, it is also stated that the grantee did not inform NIH of what it was doing - contrary to the terms of the grant - so Fauci was probably saying what he believed to be true. You can hardly blame him if someone lied to him.
     
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    It still isn’t entirely clear to me where the research took place, but it is clear that the grantee failed to inform NIH what they were doing. So Fauci was unaware of the research when he gave his testimony.

    He may have been wrong, but that doesn’t make him a liar.
     
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    PETA calls for Fauci to resign.

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    It seems the fact that this letter sent to Fauci was signed by 24 members of Congress, both R and D, bi-partisan, is being missed by numerous posters on here. This is not an R or D issue.

    This is an issue where the NIH, under the leadership of Fauci, conducted animal testing overseas in order to not abide by animal cruelty laws. This torture include the vocal cords being cut and removed from puppies so they would not whine/bark, while being eaten alive. There is now reporting on monkeys and the use of acid and the rest of it.

    This was done with tax-payer money. Being vegan/non-vegan has nothing to do with this.

    If you do not care about this, move along. I believe this is sick and evil and this type of outdated “research” needs to stop.
     
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    What part of "The NIH stated the research took place at Wuhan" and this has been reported all over the map -- is not clear to you?

    You then go on to make up some nonsense that Fauci was unaware .. and your claim that there was some failure to inform Fauci is a made up nonsense as well ..as anyone who has listed to Fauci knows ..

    Fauci's name is all over the documents explaining what kind of research was going on -- it is in published papers - stated right up front .. Fauci has never claimed he did not know about the research.. his claim was that it was not gain of function .. which has turned out to be false...

    The dude lied .. get over it .. is he a relative of yours or something ? .. and what part of massive conflict of interest do you not understand ?
     
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    I bet you were happy they only used 44 beagles instead of 100! Does that justify your defense of the great Fauci!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said they created covid - get with the program .. quit making things up in year head mate ..
     
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    Ah, yes, because I don't fall in line with the great Fauci bashing of the Trumpers, I must be a puppy killer. Probably a baby killer too. Let's see what other awful attributes you can come up for me.

    If you had actually read my previous posts in this thread, you would have noticed that I stated that I am not a friend of animal research and don't do any in my own lab. Also, I have three dogs at home. How does that fall into your stereotypes that paints your fellow Americans as devils just because they have a different political opinion?

    In any case, it seems you are relatively new here, so welcome to the forum. If you want to have reasonable discussions, however, it would be useful to lay a bit lower on the personal attacks.
     
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    Fauci reminds me of Mengele.

    He was German.
     
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    So now you have no point.
     
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    Thanks for posting this. here is actually the abstract of the grant in question:

    "This project will examine the risk of future coronavirus (CoV) emergence from wildlife using in-depth field investigations across the human-wildlife interface in China, molecular characterization of novel CoVs and host receptor binding domain genes, mathematical models of transmission and evolution, and in vitro and in vivo laboratory studies of host range. Zoonotic CoVs are a significant threat to global health, as demonstrated with the emergence of pandemic severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) in China in 2002, and the recent and ongoing emergence of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV). Bats appear to be the natural reservoir of these viruses, and hundreds of novel bat-CoVs have been discovered in the last two decades. Bats, and other wildlife species, are hunted, traded, butchered and consumed across Asia, creating a large scale human-wildlife interface, and high risk of future emergence of novel CoVs. This project aims to understand what factors increase the risk of the next CoV emerging in people by studying CoV diversity in a critical zoonotic reservoir (bats), at sites of high risk for emergence (wildlife markets) in an emerging disease hotspot (China). The three specific aims of this project are to: 1. Assess CoV spillover potential at high risk human-wildlife interfaces in China. This will include quantifying he nature and frequency of contact people have with bats and other wildlife; serological and molecular screening of people working in wet markets and highly exposed to wildlife; screening wild-caught and market sampled bats from 30+ species for CoVs using molecular assays; and genomic characterization and isolation of novel CoVs. 2. Develop predictive models of bat CoV emergence risk and host range. A combined modeling approach will include phylogenetic analyses of host receptors and novel CoV genes (including functional receptor binding domains); a fused ecological and evolutionary model to predict host-range and viral sharing; and mathematical matrix models to examine evolutionary and transmission dynamics. 3. Test predictions of CoV inter-species transmission. Predictive models of host range (i.e. emergence potential) will be tested experimentally using reverse genetics, pseudovirus and receptor binding assays, and virus infection experiments across a range of cell cultures from different species and humanized mice."

    Note that this research was all on SarsCov1, from the SARS outbreak in China between 2002 and 2004. The goal was to find how SarsCov1 could have emerged from bats. The work didn't attempt to make SarsCov1 more infectious, it tried to find out how SarsCov1 infectivity was generated by known bat coronavirus components. The genetic difference to SarsCov2 is to large to have generated it from this research, unless the researchers did work that exceeded what was in the proposal and that was not reported to the NIH.

    These facts, however, won't stop the conspiracy theorists to hold firm to their "knowledge" that SarsCov2 is a bioweapon that was created by Fauci. Haters have to hate.
     
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    So why not just simply say you are against said research instead of trying to justify it?
     

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