Exclusive: Manafort's former son-in-law cuts plea deal, to cooperate with government: sources

You don't know that at all. We are still in the early stages of a very important investigation in my book. There appears to be evidence of Russian hackers breaking into precinct voter rolls in several states. Aren't you interested in finding out who was involved? I sure as hell am. This is very serious Stuff here. Whitewater went on for 6 years, Watergate, over 2 years, Iran Contra over 4 years. The endless Benghazi hearings went on over 3 years and they found nothing...Why all of a sudden do we have to rush this one?

 

Someone getting paid by someone else to be a part of a US presidential campaign...

 

Because of the damage the political contest(irregardless of irregularities) had on America on 2016, and this investigation is continuing it. Then there's the temporary nature of this President. More likely than not, he won't win reelection, it's not even a certainty if he runs again. So, let's say you impeach him mid-terms 2018, you basically will have 2 years of President Pence(it also gives him the inside track with Republicans to prepare his own run in 2020).

That's not even advantageous to the Democratic Party. When you consider political and national damage, this investigation has undermined America's national interests, more than the prior investigations. If you do find damages that were done, I'd beseech this Congress to find political remedies that fall short of impeachment.

 

This investigation is total BS . The Obama administration is corrupt to the core. They spied, wiretapped and made stuff up to unseat a duly elected president. And his administration. Watergate ×37

 

Oh, boy! Manafort's former son-in-law!

As soon as you have his mother's half-sister's uncle's chauffeur's cat, Trump has to resign!

 

Mueller "flipped" Manaforts "current business partner" ... Gates ... remember? Gates has actual knowledge of transactions related to Ukraine ... Russia's distant cousin. It's highlly unlikely Manaforts ex son-in-law can provide Mueller with any info he doesn't already have, and which Manafort seems unphased by. Click bait.

 

Mueller must be desperate. Judge Ellis plainly asserts Mueller's only goal in Manaforts case is to coerce him into incriminating Trump, and he pulls this?

 

Then you listen to the other judge and get the statement he would be remiss to ignore the evidence of a crime.

 

Mueller fanboys have seized on Ellis other notable remark ... "I'm not saying it's illegitimate". Ellis I think holds the same opinion I do. Manafort may well have evaded taxes, but Mueller should have defered to the IRS, or US Treasury dept. where prosecution is concerned. Mueller "resurrected" an investigation, presumably because the SC investigation found new evidence related to old offenses. Mueller isn't a law enforcement official who's official position allows him jurisdictional / prosecutorial discretion. Unless Rosenstein assigned Mueller to prosecute this specific "cold-case" Mueller is outside his authority. Ellis should dismiss, and order the case be refiled by the proper agency, in the proper venue.

 

Unless Mueller has some really strong evidence that Trump committed major crimes there is no way Trump will be removed from office. If the Democrats get th House back they might be able to impeach Trump, but the 2/3 Senate vote to remove will not likely happen.

My take is that this or any other investigation of foreign meddling in our election process is advantageous to America. Screw the Democrats and the Republicans.

 

It's really good to know that some of our keyboard warriors know so much more about the laws regarding scope of investigation and prosecutorial misconduct than a rube like Mueller. Evidently, many of you have been either Hannitized or are graduates of Trump University Law School. What the heck does a guy like Mueller know about that kind of stuff anyway? What experience and education does he have? Thanks for your expert take on these issues. What would we all do without you guys.

 

I'm sorry, but it's judge Ellis who has challenged Muellers prosecutorial authority. Ellis, a graduate of Princeton, Harvard, and Oxford, has had more than 1,000 of his decisions published since taking his seat 3 decades ago. Everthing I relate in my post, basically a recital, of judge Ellis remarks regarding Muellers scope of authorization. Presumably, judge Ellis jurisprudence is reliable. Judge Ellis does have "some" expertise.

 

Posted this before, but I'll post it again.... Mueller investigating Manafort is NOT a "cold-case".... Manafort was continuing his alleged criminal activites THROUGH his time as Trump Campaigns Manager... Period.... the fact that Mueller could trace that back to 2006 doesn't change the END dates in the indictment.

Paul John Manafort Jr. (born April 1, 1949)[1] is an American lobbyist, political consultant and lawyer. He joined Donald Trump's presidential campaign team in March 2016 and was campaign manager from June to August 2016

From Virginia Indictment




From D.C. Indictment

 

How do you reconcile your assertion with Ellis himself challenging Muellers purview? Read my post again. Just because Bob discovered evidence, it doesn't mean the (ongoing?) case was his to pursue. Period

 

That's a different question, and I suppose Ellis will make his ruling today or Monday... As long as you stop calling it a cold case, I'm good...

BTW, Ellis isn't challenging Muellers purview... that's the motion by Manafort, which will be ruled on by Ellis... Ellis was challenging Muellers motives, which I find a little ridiculous....

DC Judge says the May Special Counsel appointment and the Aug Scope document meant it was his case to pursue... I suspect Ellis will do the same. If you or he have a problem with either document, it's on Rosenstein, not Mueller...

 

Watergate was nothing compared to what has gone on here.

 

D pends on what he was doing and why he was there. If the threat was Russia or some other enemy state it makes sense to me.

 

Trump's dud not see the Red Russia flags!

 

The noose tightens, a storm is on the horizon.

 

Challenging or whining opining? Ellis rules with the law or he will be overturned period.

 

Russia ? How's that going ? What if bush ordered it to see what the Obama administration was up to ? Pretending he was talking to other world leaders . Omg . Talking to other leaders .

 

They posted FB ads, woopy ****ing doo. I'm so invaded! This whole charade is sad on the part of the US.