Executions of Gays in Iran

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  1. JessCurious

    JessCurious Well-Known Member

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    Your original post condemned Conservatives for not caring out about alledged attempts during the Reagun administration to eliminate Gays, although - even if Cantwell was right - no one knew at the time,
    so Liberal didn't condemn it either. I never said Liberals thought Gay bashing overseas was a good idea so I don't to supply proof of something I didn't say. Liberals are very silent about the mistreatment of
    Gays and women overseas - that's not the same thing as thinking its a good idea. Every thread here where mistreatment of women or Gays in Iran is mentioned, Liberals attack those who bring up the
    subject. That could certainly be interpreted as a lack of sympathy.

    AS for your comments about the happiness of women under Islam - it reminds of southern whites who used to claim that their slaves were happy. In Iran, a women is legally considered being worth
    half as much as a man. Her testimony in court by law is considered to be worth only half as much as a man's, she may inherit only half as much as a man, if she is run over by car, her family is
    entitled to only half as much compensation as it would be if she were a man. Thousands have been arrested for the most minor of dress code violations, with punishments including fines, jail,
    and public flogging (there are no dress codes for men). Would you be happy living like that. As for women converting - in the West people are allowed to spread their religious beliefs, so women
    have no impediment to converting. In Muslim countries trying spread a religion other than Islam is a crime, sometimes punishable by death. Converting is also a crime. In the West, Muslim women
    who convert to Christainity are often the victims of Honor Killings by their families.

    Read my threads The Murder of Zahra Kazemi and the Hanging of Atefeh Sahaaleh and tell me you would be happy living under those conditions.
     
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    Re liberals and condemnation of attacks on gay in Iran or overseas, look up the liberal Human Rights Watch website.

    Re women and Islam, the biggest difference being that slaves did not enter into slavery voluntarily. They fled from it. By contrast, women enter into Islam voluntarily and in massive numbers.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    If youd like to talk about the history of both parties, you should start a thread and we can talk about the Dems dark past.

    So youre OK with gays being tortured and killed because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world? (Maybe because they're steadily killing off the opposition, perhaps?)
     
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    Just in case you've forgotten, it was you who went off topic to discuss abortion.


    As for me, never said it was "ok" to torture gays anywhere. On the contrary, it was you righties applauded Reagan when he stood by and did nothing about the epidemic. For the record, I condemned that silence.
     
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    Oh, ok, so it's fine for Iran to execute gay people. Ok. Anyway I didn't wanted to be islamophobic and judge persian culture.
     
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    The vast majority of Muslim women were born Muslim and are never exposed to any other than Muslim ideas. They never have the opportunity to change. You never answered the question
    if you would like to live like a Muslim women. Muslim men can wear any Western clothing they like, but women are restricted to old fashioned traditional clothing because, under Islam, Women
    are second class citizens and aren't allowed to make their own decisions. I consult Human Rights Watch regularly and have quoted them in a number of my posts. But, I haven't seen Liberals
    on this forum condemn Iran for its innumberable human rights violations against women, Gays, intellectuals, and, yes, Liberals.
     
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    Exactly...... we Christians are learning something about a hierarchy in scriptures and we are learning that
    the Sermon on the Mount should be placed far above a dogmatic and simplistic understanding of the law of Moses..... (not that the law of Moses should be forgotten because the world is facing a situation where the logic and application of the principle of JUBILEE could transform the world economy)!

    Near death experience accounts are partly responsible for calming us Christians down and making us into better neighbours! Perhaps publishing the near death experience accounts of Muslims might have a similar affect on the way that Islam is practiced ??

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/gay/christian-andreason.html#a11
    Some progress is being made on this:

    Near-Death Experiences and Islam
    By Kevin R. Williams, B.Sc.
     
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    Oh, christians don't do that anymore they try to ostracize and prohibited normal interactions
     
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    Huh, in Minnesota they elect them to congress
    ....
     
  10. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for this link.... that is at the least interesting!

    I know very little about this topic so I would sure appreciate if you would elaborate further in this poll that I just began?

    Could the HIV virus been developed deliberately in a laboratory???
     
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    How many honor killings happened in her district again? And when was the last time you heard her suggest that those killings, or the beheadings in other muslim nations were unacceptable?
     
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    If it was the experiment went askance, because heterosexuals can get HIV, too. HIV is an equal opportunity virus that will grab any opportunity or weakness in any host to enter any kind of a human body.
     
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    Never.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Something interesting about the virus though is that IF a male is circumcised......
    even if his wife is HIV positive..... it is actually difficult for a circumcised male to
    contract the HIV virus from his HIV positive wife even if they both remain sexually active!

    This is an aspect of the formula that I heard about a long time ago and I did try to
    make more people aware of this.... but so far...... the mainstream media seems to
    be downplaying this potentially important part of the formula?!


    Male circumcision for HIV prevention

     
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    If you last showered with gritty lava soap it may not make a difference:)
     
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    History shows that communicable diseases have been created in test tubes and deliberately spread among minorities. Dr Cantwell made references to hep contamination which got my immediate attention. Back in the mid 1970s I well recall rumors of hep in a federal building near the IRS building where I worked. Despite all our efforts to try to find out who had been contaminated, nobody found out who was/were the supposed victim(s). After that I was forced to think this rumor had been a hoax. Meanwhile, people came into government buildings to take innoculations for hep preventions because of this scare. According to Dr Cantwell, certain people (notably Haitians and self declared gays) were targeted and were given the virus in the innoculations which ultimately became AIDS. This is why I believe the premise of that book.
     

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