Expert implies wall is a no-deal brain-dead idea

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    Good on you, Arch. Ms. Patrick's credentials are better than yours, simple fact.

    I am sure you wave and applaud Trump, which is why I doubt you.

    Go elsewhere. She is credentialed in court, you are not.

    I never ad hom, and I never back away.
     
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    And what qualifies as a real job ?
     
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    Lots of luck tracking down every Latino in the US who subcontracts in the building industry and hires three or four illegals to help him out. Four every meat packing plant using illegals there are a hundred of those guys or more.
     
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    Got a kick out of Rubio denouncing Trump for threatening to declare a state of emergency. * some how he thinks that a made up threat on the border is greater then an actual threat to man kind. He’s another denier if facts.
     
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    Practical experience in ANYTHING?
     
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    But instead, you want to track down every individual illegal. A surprising fact. Businesses are easier to track then individuals. Your last sentence makes this point exactly.
     
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    If you liberals want to hang your hat on the words of a facebook expert, be my guest.

    Us conservatives get a kick out of the sheer lunacy on your part.

    If only she was wearing a pink p***y hat, maybe I would have been convinced.:roflol:
     
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    Dude those subcontractors are about as easy to track as microbes in a cess pool. They tend to be nomadic as hell constantly trying to get in on the next building boom. Most aren't licensed, and a lot of them are strictly cash on the barrel head. I'm happy to stop the inflow and boot out the criminals and those aiding and abetting them.
     
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    Like engineering ?
    The problem with your practical experience is, not everyone can experience every thing.
    Do you think Trump has any experience in anything but laundering Russuan rubles ? Guess that makes him an expert in AGW. Oh, it’s cold outside, must be, no such thing as AGW.
     
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    Unlike wall expert Amy Patrick there were something like 2 million wall experts who had no BS in engineering who built walls using sandbags and there lives depended on being better at building walls than experts with a degree in engineering.

    Walls work or I wouldn't be here today to tell you that walls work.

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    Fifty years later walls still work.
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    Dude, do you think it easier to go to everyone’s door, knock and ask, any illegals here ? Well, first you track all static businesses like Trumps golf course in New Jersey under investigation for handing out fake SS numbers and fake green cards.

    Boot out hiring businesses ? That’s just as silly.
     
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    The experts are the ones who actually work on he border, apprehending illegals. All of them want a wall.
     
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    So you're advocating we use GIs to sand bag 2000 mikes of wall ?
     
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    Wrong... They don’t want A WALL.
    According to the poll, which was shared with The Washington Times, the vast majority of agents support a "wall system in strategic locations."
    know the difference ?

    Read Newsmax: Poll: Border Patrol Agents Support Border Wall | Newsmax.com

    They also want a better holding and release strategy. That’s department of Homeland security AND THE TWO YEARS OF REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED GOVT.

    That’s a big difference !

    Dems have always said, there doesn’t need to be a shut down. Bring your people in and show where you need and what type of security measures you need anywhere. Trump has given NO PLAN. He just wants five billion for some wall. dens have gone with any well presented security plan in the past, even Bushs security fence.

    Where is the emergency. Trump has only spent 6% of Last YEARS BUDGET.M
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me if President Trump doesn't declare a national emergency and sends "G.I's" to the border and build a wall.

    That's what the U.S. Army has done during peacetime during most of it's history, built stuff.

    Until recently all graduates of West Point graduated with a engineering degree.

    The Army Corps of Engineers is just one of the many different kinds of corps in the U.S. Army organization, Corps of Engineering, Artillery Corps, Infantry Corps, Quartermasters Corps, Signal Corps, etc.

    During the 19th Century the Army Corps of Engineers built coastal defense forts, harbors, military outpost and military roads that became U.S. highways during the 20th Century.
     
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    Yes ... the border patrol, Trump, and all sane people want a wall in the strategic areas (where 90% of all crossings occur).

    But the Dems will not give money for even one foot of wall.
     
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    That’s funny. Guess who has to OK the material purchase and movement of funds from one passed legislative plan to another...the congress. He has NO MONEY. HE HAS NO PLAN.
    Bush’s secure fence act has stopped in its tracks because of 1100 miles of private owned land.....it seems you can’t take by eminent domain, as easily as you thought.
    Trump doesn’t believe in science....he’s had a plethora of bankruptcies for a reason. He’s fking incompetent.
     
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    Ha ha...they won’t give one cent to TRUMP. They will vote to approve measures by career people at the agencies who ask for it with expert advice. THEY ALWAYS HAVE. Let me repeat....HE HAS NO PLAN.
    He wants 5 billion designated for A WALL. He’s an idiot.
     
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    Of course it is to the gullible few who lack the common sense to figure these things out on their own.
     
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    Condor060, guillibility? Are you a birther, truther, and SH hoaxer?
     
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    Common sense and figuring things out on their own party s the last thing you want from anyone. Hopefully, they use science and go toeroerts for advice.
     
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    Remember when President Teddy Roosevelt wanted to send the U.S.Navy on a cruise around the world (The Great White Fleet) and Congress refused to appropriate the funding to do so ?

    The Great White Fleet for Dummies

    Roosevelt wanted to send the U.S. Navy on a around the world cruise to show the flag.

    Congress said no way Jose, and refused to pay for it.

    Roosevelt called Congress obstructionist and sent the fleet to sea anyways.

    When the fleet was 12,000 miles from home, no money to purchase coal and supplies Roosevelt told Congress if you want to bring your navy home, give me the money to bring it home.
     
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    Yeah, those are the real pressing issues that concern America. Unfortunately, Trump has made it very clear he has no, and never had any, interest in working on those issues to improve the life of ordinary Americans.

    There is no massive humanitarian crisis at the Southern border.
    A humanitarian crisis is defined as; a singular event or a series of events that are threatening in terms of health, safety or well being of a community or large group of people. It may be an internal or external conflict and usually occurs throughout a large land area. Local, national and international responses are necessary in such events.

    If people were dying at the Southern border from such a crisis than the world would be witness to such events and, presumably, Trump would have send relief efforts to the region long ago.

    This is the most blatant lie he has ever told and one that is totally debunked.

    Furthermore, it shows how Trump rejects serving a truth of any kind in his Presidency.

    Trump's statement that there is massive human peril at the Southern border is so grotesquely untrue it can only compare with Hitler calling all Jews evil.

    Both statements are so far outside the scope of truth and sanity, it beggars belief.


    Trump was elected President to tackle the problems of America.

    In the end America is tackled by Trump and his never-ending lies.

    By now they could form a wall.
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    Experts say some wall is needed. Dems won’t pay for it. They’re against border security. They are the party of open borders. That’s not just a fringe element of the Democratic Party. The whole damn party wants no border at all.

    They should have their citizenship revoked.
     
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